Madonna is not a big influence on Gaga

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

3 minutes ago, ZombieMirror said:

http://www.mtv.com/news/2806479/best-musicians-turned-actors/

this is a fact too (top 40 best-musicians-turned-actors)

 

you are really delusional if you think that Gaga got into acting cause Madonna did 

Did Gaga born Italian cause Madonna did ?

You have the worst off tangent non-argument quotations in this thread and you explicitly ignore the summarizing point I always clarify at the end of my post. On top of that, you always ask loaded questions.

Quote me after you reconsider your arguments.

[Adakam 2]

I think Madonna was a big philosophical influence, but not musical, i agree with you, she has said multiple times how she grew up listening to rock.

[ZombieMirror 299]

3 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said:

You have the worst off tangent non-argument quotations in this thread and you explicitly ignore the summarizing point I always clarify at the end of my post. On top of that, you always ask loaded questions.

Quote me after you reconsider your arguments.

and you explicitly igonore the other ppl that got into acting and they sing too ( MJ was acting too, I think he was influenced by Madonna to ) just to fit your argument  

[TopDomBoy 1,182]

Madonna inspired everybody. 

[Kayla 7,595]

3 hours ago, Scarlet said:

this still doesn't change the fact that she influenced Gaga and made her who she is  

MANY things made Gaga who she is. I loathe how people try to credit Gaga's success to ONE person. I loathe it more than Madonna loathes hydrangeas. 

[Bogdan 164]

40 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said:

That they are both actresses is an actual similarity I simply stated.

Then it's pointless to state that. It has no relevance.

41 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said:

But clearly, they are much more similar than detractors like you would like to admit.

Again, pointless. Being similar and being influenced are two different things. Quite a rant to make a worthless point.

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

4 minutes ago, Unwavering said:

Then it's pointless to state that. It has no relevance.

Again, pointless. Being similar and being influenced are two different things. Quite a rant to make a worthless point.

How dare similarities be said as a point of contention in a thread discussing similarities between gaga and her influences.

I also like how you conveniently avoided the similarities in their roles you specifically asked me to state.

[Kayla 7,595]

3 hours ago, Omar Vela said:

I agree, visually and musically she doesn't have a lot in common to Madonna (lots of songs that people claim to sound alike it's more because Madonna always used rythms and synths that were already a thing in that time so...)Visually she has more in common with the real artists that inspire Madonna... examples:

Grace Jones

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Blondie & Courtney Love

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Bette Davis, Marlene Dietrich & Marilyn Monroe

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Raffaella Carrá (not as talented but Gaga totally channels her a lot of the time...also...she's italian too)

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So...the only reason why Madonna influenced her it's because she show them all the homages to those artists that she took inspiration from.

I really wanna find the post or article that listed out the Cher comparisons. Visually, personality-wise, and musically, Gaga is WAY more like Cher than Madonna. 

 

Can't we all just agree that Gaga has had many influences, one of which is Madonna? Our girl is so diverse and has captured so many different looks, sounds, etc. - there's no way we can say she learned it all from one legend or one artist. 

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Just now, Kayla said:

Can't we all just agree that Gaga has had many influences, one of which is Madonna?

Literally all the medonsters here are saying is that Madonna is ONE of the major influences. It's Enigma and the rest that are being extra.

[Bogdan 164]

13 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said:

How dare similarities be said as a point of contention in a thread discussing similarities between gaga and her influences.

I also like how you conveniently avoided the similarities in their roles you specifically asked me to state.

I didn't ignore them. I just think they're not relevant. Again, similarities are not the same as influences. They're off topic. They prove nothing. Do you understand that? There are a lot of similarities in many industries. There's a reason there aren't lawsuits flying around everywhere. Because some basic concepts can't be held as copyright to someone. Now, the case you make is even more loose. There are a lot of arguments to be made against 'influences', though. For example, it's may have not been up to Gaga what character would play in AHS or show may take another direction at a given time. Cinematography is much more different than music, simply because the existence and concept of the character doesn't lie solely in the hands of the actor that plays it. Making the same case in music is understandable though.

Don't get me wrong, it's common knowledge Madonna was an influence on Gaga, but extending it to cinematography is silly for various reasons.

[Omar Vela 2,513]

Some of you just lost the point...we are not saying Madonna didn't influence her...we are saying she is not THAT BIG INFLUENCE or PRINCIPAL INFLUENCE

[chrismugler 944]

She is an influence and she will always be. Everyone has someone to be influenced by. 

PS. Being influenced in someone's past work doesn't mean copying it. Gaga has been influenced by several artists including MDNA, that's cool, she might have borrowed some elements, that's cool as well, now let it go.

[Lava 3,201]

Madonna may have been an influence on early Gaga,

but she's no influence on Joanne

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

6 hours ago, Scarlet said:

Yet Gaga wouldn't be who she is today if it wasn't for Madonna  

I can't get over how ridiculous this statement is. That's like saying Madonna would not be Madonna if not for Cher. As if Madonna was the only female artist not playing by the cookie cutter pop rules. Donna Summer was giving you "Hot Stuff"  and ABBA was asking the world to "Give Me A Man After Midnight" while Madonna was still blowing her BF under the bleachers in highschool. Please educate yourself. Female sexuality and empowerment was here long before Madonna. 

[imwoahvicky 4,248]

2 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

I can't get over how ridiculous this statement is. That's like saying Madonna would not be Madonna if not for Cher. As if Madonna was the only female artist not playing by the cookie cutter pop rules. Donna Summer was giving you "Hot Stuff"  and ABBA was asking the world to "Give Me A Man After Midnight" while Madonna was still blowing her BF under the bleachers in highschool. Please educate yourself. Female sexuality and empowerment was here long before Madonna. 

yawn. don't quote me again in this tired topic