PeterPan 0 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Whispering said: Matters of natural security bore him. He's too busy on Twitter and running his cabinet picks like a reality show to pay attention to anything else. Trump needs attention like he needs air. I kinda agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,967 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Born This Way said: I kind of agree with this. It's disrespectful. Maybe just a $500 fine though. Not jail or loss of citizenship. Our first amendment makes burning a flag 100% legal, and it should be 100% legal. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezer bride 1,405 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 30 minutes ago, Whispering said: The Supreme Court ruled that burning the flag fell under freedom of speech. Trump can't just decide to take people's citizenship away for doing something he feels is wrong. It is wrong. It's disrespectful to anyone who has fought and died for our country. ♥. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Just now, Born This Way said: It is wrong. It's disrespectful to anyone who has fought and died for our country. The Supreme Court, including the Conservative Justices, disagrees with you. By the way, the military actually fought for our right to do something they disagree with or find to be disrespectful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Born This Way said: I kind of agree with this. It's disrespectful. Maybe just a $500 fine though. Not jail or loss of citizenship. Can we start fining people for saying racist, sexist or homophobic things? It's disrespectful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 38 minutes ago, Born This Way said: It is wrong. It's disrespectful to anyone who has fought and died for our country. Are we really gonna fine things just because they're offensive. That's a very slippery slope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Shut that clown up/ someone 🔥him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 34 minutes ago, Born This Way said: It is wrong. It's disrespectful to anyone who has fought and died for our country. In my opinion- not necessarily. I come from a military family, and almost joined myself. I respect those who joined to defend our country, but I also directly acknowledge that the military is not a cut and dry issue. The correlation between the military, as a colonial and literally militaristic complex, with the rest of the world, and within our own country, is not perfect, and should not be put in a pedestal. To burn the American flag is a powerful political statement, not just "durr hurr I hate America". When somebody burns the American flag, or kneels during the National Anthem, or refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance- it's a statement acknowledging that larger systemic powers of this country is failing particular demographics of its own nation. My father joined the military from another country that the US colonized, mind you, for a United States that he taught me should be- a country of no divisiveness and no prejudice, not militaristic fascism. Looking back at my experience growing up in bases around the world, it really is scary how... uncritical many service members are. But not all of them. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: Can we start fining people for saying racist, sexist or homophobic things? It's disrespectful. ****ing slay I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaxboy 7,080 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Ah, just another ridiculous issue that has been solved years ago. These are the kind of statements that conservative, red-state, working class, republicans live for because they think it's so "patriotic." There are more important things to discuss tbh and he should really get to things that actually matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Miel said: In my opinion- not necessarily. I come from a military family, and almost joined myself. I respect those who joined to defend our country, but I also directly acknowledge that the military is not a cut and dry issue. The correlation between the military, as a colonial and literally militaristic complex, with the rest of the world, and within our own country, is not perfect, and should not be put in a pedestal. To burn the American flag is a powerful political statement, not just "durr hurr I hate America". When somebody burns the American flag, or kneels during the National Anthem, or refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance- it's a statement acknowledging that larger systemic powers of this country is failing particular demographics of its own nation. My father joined the military from another country that the US colonized, mind you, for a United States that he taught me should be- a country of no divisiveness and no prejudice, not militaristic fascism. Looking back at my experience growing up in bases around the world, it really is scary how... uncritical many service members are. But not all of them. there's deff gonna be white folk on here who ain't gonna check their privilege ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and see that comment about burning the flag as a attack lel anyway great reply but I wouldn't expect any less from you I'm sure some of the few thousand veterans protesting against the cops at standing rock aren't gonna give any ****s if they see anyone burning the flag - hell they will probs join in. They feel pretty ****ed up & disrespected at the country as a whole after what's happening down there and damn right they should Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 minute ago, high heeled fem said: there's deff gonna be white folk on here who ain't gonna check their privilege ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and see that comment as a attack lel anyway great reply but I wouldn't expect any less from you I'm sure some of the few thousand veterans protesting against the cops at standing rock aren't gonna give any ****s if they see anyone burning the flag - hell they will probs join in. They feel pretty ****ed up about what's happening down there and damn right they should Good. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Has he ever heard of symbolic speech? Did Trump even go to school? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Miel said: Good. http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/venterans-standing-rock-protest-human-shield/ https://www.stripes.com/news/veterans-travel-to-standing-rock-to-join-protesters-lend-aid-1.441582 so proud of these guys! Guess they realise that tearing up sacred burial land & brutalising children including keeping them in kennels is evil not to mention the spraying of horrible chemicals nightly .... yeah that's gonna be really healthy for the people, covering them in pesticides - chemical warfare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 4 hours ago, OBEY said: Lowkey want this video for Angel Down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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