Ohio State Mass Attack

[Kayla 7,595]

Editing the title since it was not a shooting

[iCpro 14,846]

29 minutes ago, later said:

I'm sorry that these tragedies happen so often that you don't even care anymore, and that you've been desensitized to them. And yet, here you are......perfectly capable of being sensitive to a random stranger's comments on a forum about Lady Gaga, wherein said random stranger pokes fun at you for playing the victim of desensitization. You're what I'm "on about." You're the one who has chosen not to care anymore, perhaps because caring interferes with your hobbies and your pastimes. You're the one who has chosen to be desensitized because you have the luxury of reading the news, as opposed to being the news. Anyone who doesn't "care anymore" or has become "desensitized" probably wanted to become those things long before a catalyst appeared. It's called lazy thinking.

Clearly you misinterpreted my comment entirely. I was not trying to play the victim card at all. I was pointing out how the frequency of these attacks has lead it to become normalised in American society, which can be seen by going to any comment section anywhere. Way back before these attacks were regular, or at least regularly covered by the media to this extent, you would see people expressing their upset and shock, now if you go to the comments, most likely half of the comments would be people expressing that this is 'typical America' or something along those lines. 

But you're right, I would rather spend my time focusing on hobbies and things I enjoy doing rather than caring about another shooting in America. Do you know why? These shootings happen every week in America, and daily around the world. I simply don't have time to stop my life every time one happens. Same with most other people. For people to want to care about something, something has to change, something has to happen that isn't the norm. Unfortunately shootings or acts of extreme violence have become the norm in America, so when one happens people just don't care. That's the way it is. It's horrible that it's the case, but we've let society get to this point.

[Kayla 7,595]

7 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

Shooter is of Somalian descent. 

And without information people are thinking it's terrorism. 

They're not wrong to make that assumption- when ANYONE attacks a large group that's a definite possibility. But isn't it funny how "Terrorism Suspected" isn't a headline when a white guy shoots up a school but when a Somalian man pulls a knife on people it is?

If he IS proven to be a terrorist that doesn't negate this bullshit either, tbh. 

[Morphine Prince 109,683]

36 minutes ago, Kayla said:

And without information people are thinking it's terrorism. 

They're not wrong to make that assumption- when ANYONE attacks a large group that's a definite possibility. But isn't it funny how "Terrorism Suspected" isn't a headline when a white guy shoots up a school but when a Somalian man pulls a knife on people it is?

If he IS proven to be a terrorist that doesn't negate this bullshit either, tbh. 

Yup. As soon as I saw "Somalian" I knew terrorism talk would start  

[Kayla 7,595]

Just now, Morphine Prince said:

Yup. As soon as I saw "Somalian" I knew terrorism talk would start  

Right? And it's not wrong to assume that - but the issue is when that only blows up as an option when it's a person of a specific faith.  

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24 minutes ago, iCpro said:

Clearly you misinterpreted my comment entirely. I was not trying to play the victim card at all. I was pointing out how the frequency of these attacks has lead it to become normalised in American society, which can be seen by going to any comment section anywhere. Way back before these attacks were regular, or at least regularly covered by the media to this extent, you would see people expressing their upset and shock, now if you go to the comments, most likely half of the comments would be people expressing that this is 'typical America' or something along those lines. 

But you're right, I would rather spend my time focusing on hobbies and things I enjoy doing rather than caring about another shooting in America. Do you know why? These shootings happen every week in America, and daily around the world. I simply don't have time to stop my life every time one happens. Same with most other people. For people to want to care about something, something has to change, something has to happen that isn't the norm. Unfortunately shootings or acts of extreme violence have become the norm in America, so when one happens people just don't care. That's the way it is. It's horrible that it's the case, but we've let society get to this point.

How conveniently fatalistic. You'll have to introduce me to all these people who don't care. And you'll have to introduce me to the part of my brain that would not care because other people express a lack of caring in "comment sections anywhere." And you'll have to introduce me to those people who only care about things when things change, versus those people who change things because they care. You are the epitome of apathetic thought. 

Just because something becomes a "norm," doesn't mean you have to eradicate your reaction to it. Maybe the problem is that people like you think that getting involved in a form of politics that actively works to create a politics of nonviolence is somehow nothing more than a moment of interruption, a "stopping my life moment." I mean, seriously, life is so much more than retail and discos.

[Morphine Prince 109,683]

Just now, Kayla said:

Right? And it's not wrong to assume that - but the issue is when that only blows up as an option when it's a person of a specific faith.  

Exactly lol. And people were PRAYING the person was Muslim or Arab even before we had any information to confirm their xenophobia and other similar sentiments. 

[Kayla 7,595]

2 minutes ago, later said:

How conveniently fatalistic. You'll have to introduce me to all these people who don't care. And you'll have to introduce me to the part of my brain that would not care because other people express a lack of caring in "comment sections anywhere." And you'll have to introduce me to those people who only care about things when things change, versus those people who change things because they care. You are the epitome of apathetic thought. 

Just because something becomes a "norm," doesn't mean you have to eradicate your reaction to it. Maybe the problem is that people like you think that getting involved in a form of politics that actively works to create a politics of nonviolence is somehow nothing more than a moment of interruption, a "stopping my life moment." I mean, seriously, life is so much more than retail and discos.

Look, the reality is some people don't have an emotional response to tragedies like this. Truthfully, if it happened less often we WOULD have a bigger response. I feel sad for the people hurt, but honestly after seeing this pop up nothing about my overall mood, night, or thought process changed. 

There's so much going on that it's unrealistic to expect everyone to have the same emotional responses as you to every stimulus. The user you're speaking to obviously recognizes this as a tragedy and if you read between the lines in their posts you'll see they're actually VERY frustrated with how this violence has become such a common part of our American life.

You're not talking to some heartless jerk who doesn't care, you're talking to a person who's seen it so much that they're hurt to the point they can't bring themselves to care anymore, if that makes sense. That's more of a testament to how horrible this culture is than crying over the article, imo. 

[DeleteMyAccount 11,881]

47 minutes ago, Kayla said:

And without information people are thinking it's terrorism. 

They're not wrong to make that assumption- when ANYONE attacks a large group that's a definite possibility. But isn't it funny how "Terrorism Suspected" isn't a headline when a white guy shoots up a school but when a Somalian man pulls a knife on people it is?

If he IS proven to be a terrorist that doesn't negate this bullshit either, tbh. 

And lets not forget the tons of hate crimes that happen in this country everyday. The number of trans folk murdered this year alone should raise alarms and yet we still have to fear the radicalized... That's not to say that radicalized people aren't dangerous. But the sensation of crime done by a person of color or if the victim is white is normally portrayed much differently. Sadly. So sad.

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20 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Look, the reality is some people don't have an emotional response to tragedies like this. Truthfully, if it happened less often we WOULD have a bigger response. I feel sad for the people hurt, but honestly after seeing this pop up nothing about my overall mood, night, or thought process changed. 

There's so much going on that it's unrealistic to expect everyone to have the same emotional responses as you to every stimulus. The user you're speaking to obviously recognizes this as a tragedy and if you read between the lines in their posts you'll see they're actually VERY frustrated with how this violence has become such a common part of our American life.

You're not talking to some heartless jerk who doesn't care, you're talking to a person who's seen it so much that they're hurt to the point they can't bring themselves to care anymore, if that makes sense. That's more of a testament to how horrible this culture is than crying over the article, imo. 

You're right.