holy scheisse 20,837 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 obvioussly Troy Carter bc he managed her most successful eras but Bobby is doing just fine.. the award show performances, the bbowie tribute, the super bowl. keep em coming gurl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,439 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 9 hours ago, LePetitMonstr said: Maybe if he KNEW how to his job properly, people wouldn't tell him what to do Show me your Manager degree and you'll be able to tell me if he's a bad manager. ÂżQuĂ© currĂculum tiene Ă©sta tarĂĄntula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,439 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You guys can't see how Troy EXPLOTED her until she was devastaded and tired of being a musician?????? Really i can't with y'all, you only care about success instead of caring about herself. **** off! You want her to sell a lot but deal with anxiety, depression and overworking???? You shouldn't give a **** about HER bussiness, it's her job, not yours, you're ONLY supposed to buy her product and it's not that she doesnt do anything for us. You have no idea about how it is to be in the music bussiness. She's lucky to have a manager like Bobby. How easy it is to judge someone else's job when you have no clue about it lol, Like if a farmer would tell me that the party posters i do are ugly and unprofessional. ÂżQuĂ© currĂculum tiene Ă©sta tarĂĄntula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I say Bobby. The attention she's getting now is for her talent and not for gimmicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 20,837 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said: You guys can't see how Troy EXPLOTED her until she was devastaded and tired of being a musician?????? Really i can't with y'all, you only care about success instead of caring about herself. **** off! You want her to sell a lot but deal with anxiety, depression and overworking???? You shouldn't give a **** about HER bussiness, it's her job, not yours, you're ONLY supposed to buy her product and it's not that she doesnt do anything for us. You have no idea about how it is to be in the music bussiness. She's lucky to have a manager like Bobby. How easy it is to judge someone else's job when you have no clue about it lol, Like if a farmer would tell me that the party posters i do are ugly and unprofessional. thats how it ended--thats not how it always was. gaga was just as determined to ascend to the pinacle of popstardom. somebody had to help her get there and troy carter did. only at the top did it turn bad.   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta 5,019 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Gaga getting too comfortable and cozy is what's pulling her down. She needs a manager that can help her balance both being happy and still being successful. Both are sh*t. And let's be very clear, some of you are telling me a Gaga on hiatus and an averagely successful album can snatch a Super Bowl slot but not Gaga during her peak? The delusions. He was an asshole but he was an asshole that knew how to do his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta 5,019 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 18 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said: You guys can't see how Troy EXPLOTED her until she was devastaded and tired of being a musician?????? Really i can't with y'all, you only care about success instead of caring about herself. **** off! You want her to sell a lot but deal with anxiety, depression and overworking???? You shouldn't give a **** about HER bussiness, it's her job, not yours, you're ONLY supposed to buy her product and it's not that she doesnt do anything for us. You have no idea about how it is to be in the music bussiness. She's lucky to have a manager like Bobby. How easy it is to judge someone else's job when you have no clue about it lol, Like if a farmer would tell me that the party posters i do are ugly and unprofessional. You know, hard work and strict schedules come with this title that's called 'The Biggest Pop Star in the World'. Want to know what's even funnier? She signed up for this! I know, shocking Also, let's be very clear about something: Gaga's team as a whole back then is what made Gaga 'Lady Gaga'. Nicola, Troy, crazy BoomKak, the original dancers we all loved, the creative team and so on. And let's be even more clear that Gaga was very happy, hardworking, thankful and successful. Troy was disgusting for exploiting her against her wish, however with or without him she would have gotten press and attention after reaching the level of stardom she was at. The only time she got rid of that was hiding in her backyard for God knows how long and then putting out Joanne which is arguably a very stale era. People like you that keep babying Gaga are what's wrong with her fanbase. I want her to be happy and stress-free but let's not forget who she is and the name she made for herself. She's never going to be that unknown Italian girl in New York so every.single.person including her needs to suck it up and stop basking around in sadness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Gaga 21,894 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 7 hours ago, BloodyMonster said: @Mister Gaga I wanna know what u think I think Troy amplifies both the strengths and weaknesses of what a manager should be/do. He helped her become the #1 star on the planet. His BTW promotional schedule, besides some flaws (Judas on easter weekend; Marry The Night underperformed because Gaga was extremely overexposed by that time), is the definition of good WW promo. Actually, ARTPOP promo was pretty good until they separated. VMAs, AMAs, SNL, Japan, UK XFactor, Graham Norton, Chatty Man, GMA, iTunes Festival...WW promo (France, Aus, Italy, Germany) was going to take place on December, but they were splitted by then, same with DWUW, which was already taking off (#7 on Pop Radio without MV, outperforming Unconditionally). Troy did a very solid job, commercially speaking. As a manager, as a professional, i'd choose him anyday over Bobby. But if the price is Gaga being exhausted, and promoting while being hurt, sad and depressed...well, i'd rather pick Bobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free My Mind 2,111 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 the fact that troy is ahead in this saddens me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I feel like Bobby hasn't proved himself yet. Troy done us all good up until ARTPOP so I feel slightly swayed to choose him but I'll just stay on the fence for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagafy 296 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 11 hours ago, BloodyMonster said: I think Troy by far Troy no questions ask. She is just too cocky to follow his advice after years later. Though I enjoy Joanne a lot, but i would definitely want to hear what she did with Redone in 2015 and that's what Troy will bring out if he is still with Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slade 2,591 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Troy literally helped propel Gaga from a nobody to the world's biggest superstar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemetovenus 4,826 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 hours ago, Ooolong said: can the little managers please stop acting like they'd do an even remotely better job of managing just because they dedicate their lives to a pop forum . omg the drag im living Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 none Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 They're both similar in terms of work ethic. Both seem to miss many opportunities yet both love charts. Neither. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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