Pablo 8,575 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Shouldn't he be governing indiana instead of being out of date now that the election is over? Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne 4,154 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinsey 313 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Has anyone ever stopped to think about howSTRANGE booing is? Just a bunch of people shouting the noise "BOOOOOOOOOOO" in unison lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,282 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 7 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Hide contents Also, to be fair, Mike Pence is not openly "for" conversion therapy, but he believes it should be a legal option and parents should have the right to do whatever is necessary to preserve the "straightness" of their child if they think it will work. This isn't as heinous sounding as "he supports electroshock therapy to turn your kids straight", but he is okay with the fact that this exists and believes it can be effective, which is still just as bad. Can we please stop pandering this point especially. It is exactly as heinous it sounds and he does openly support conversion therapy. The only difference is that conversion therapy is more than electrocuting underaged dicks, which is the only thing republicans have to say when the topic is brought up and that is NOT okay. We should never ever ever tell them "well it's really not that bad," because it IS that bad. 7 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: My entire point was about how the focus on rhetoric and temperament is not a point that is relevant to voters or to policies, and yet you cited temperament as a main issue in your post. His policies consist of, "I'm gonna git rid of isis cause I know more than our military" (he literally said that, great military strategies) and "I'm gonna commit warcrimes because I'm the greatest"(not warning civilians before an attack? That works only in the minds of absolute idiots, I am not sorry to say) and "I'm gonna build a wall because I know a lot about construction" (we already have a fence, which is literally his plan now, great policy) and "russia is great, second only to me" (nevermind the warmongering in ukraine and human rights violations in russia) and "I'm gonna bring back coal jobs" (impossible, just clearly impossible) and "more countries should have nuclear weapons" (... I hope you at least see how stupid that is, for the love of god at least see how stupid that is) and "When I'm president I'm going to assign task forces to investigate all of my political opponents" (because screw peaceful transition of power, that just makes america weak right?) and "Obamacare is the worst" (great policy proposal there, nevermind that the republican congress made the affordable care act what it is today, and if the democrats had their way it would be way different. Republican made it subsidized private insurance and a toddler could tell you that was a bad idea) and "women should be punished for having abortions and roe v wade overturned" and "we should leave NATO" and "Global warming is a hoax" and "globilization is bad" and "corporations should pay less taxes" (OMG GIRL, trickle down economics! That's the best he could come up with! A failed policy from the 80s). Those policies? Please correct me if I'm wrong, on top of all of his comments, on top of all of the racists, homophobes, xenophobes and misoginist being put on his team, on top of giving his children positions in his administration while running his business, you like him because of those policies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 I didn't know fascists needed a safe place. is he having a meltdown over this? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 10 hours ago, uo111 said: Are you being sarcastic? This isn't no Justin Bieber who got famous at 13 years old where that argument makes some sense. This is an adult, grown ass man who has dedicated his life to being an asshole. YOU TELL EM SIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleworldme 87 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799974635274194947?ref_src=twsrc^tfw What are we, 5? Hahahahahaha 😂😂😂 Take note of the reality and act as president-elect to calm the minority that is feeling this way. Don't be a little weasel on Twitter. Hope he takes on Instagram next when a world leader has something to say about him. Dilated, falling free. In a modern ecstasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantina 3,438 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Just now, simpleworldme said: https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799974635274194947?ref_src=twsrc^tfw What are we, 5? Hahahahahaha 😂😂😂 Take note of the reality and act as president-elect to calm the minority that is feeling this way. Don't be a little weasel on Twitter. Hope he takes on Instagram next when a world leader has something to say about him. And then you have his supporters in the comment section telling him that he should cancel all Broadway shows and ship them to Europe Until then, this is Elvira saying unpleasant dreams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarBrar 1 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 So, this is evidently an anti-Trump forum, and all of you bully someone with an open-mind because he doesn't take sides and points out the blatant bigotry. It's no surprise that those who mock and insult Pence or anyone related to Trump gets likes. You people are no different than blind Trump supporters. I feel bad for Pence who has to work with a man who half of America seriously dislikes. He didn't deserve the treatment he received. It wasn't bad enough that the majority of the audience were Anti-Trump, but the performers needed to single him out further. This same thing happens on a pro-Trump forum. There are no forums for the open-minded. The bitterness, the devotion to mocking Trump is very productive, you anti-Trump, just like the blind Trump supporters who make all of his supporters look bad (and no, children, they aren't all bad just like how not all Clinton supporters blindly hate Trump) make America look so great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 It's Trump's and Republicans' own fault for their divisive speech. They had it coming, the same with the protests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarBrar 1 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, sipthistea said: It's Trump's and Republicans' own fault for their divisive speech. They had it coming, the same with the protests. You're absolutely correct. But it shows how bigoted the American voter really is. Some on this thread said he would make it his life to ruin Trump's life. Oh, wow. That's very productive. There are students who are protesting who should be studying to get a job, to pay the bills, to feed their children. No, it's immature. I would have loved to have a president who was the best of both Trump and Clinton. I like that Trump isn't PC, and is a straight talker. I like that Clinton is composed and professional. I don't like that Trump talks faster than he thinks, staying stupid nonsense sometimes (and this is where the anti-Trump bigots say he says stupid nonsense all the time). I can list the cons of both candidates. They're both bad. But I'm not going to be a baby, (Ted Cruz came out and called the protesters what they are, hypocritical idiots), and be bitter about it. Do some people even stop and think? I expect this much from adults. But again, it's the minority against anti-Trump bigots. Just like it's the minority against anti-Clinton bigots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZiggs 30,067 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 12 minutes ago, DarBrar said: So, this is evidently an anti-Trump forum, and all of you bully someone with an open-mind because he doesn't take sides and points out the blatant bigotry. It's no surprise that those who mock and insult Pence or anyone related to Trump gets likes. You people are no different than blind Trump supporters. I feel bad for Pence who has to work with a man who half of America seriously dislikes. He didn't deserve the treatment he received. It wasn't bad enough that the majority of the audience were Anti-Trump, but the performers needed to single him out further. This same thing happens on a pro-Trump forum. There are no forums for the open-minded. The bitterness, the devotion to mocking Trump is very productive, you anti-Trump, just like the blind Trump supporters who make all of his supporters look bad (and no, children, they aren't all bad just like how not all Clinton supporters blindly hate Trump) make America look so great. It always has and always will be. DarBar, Whats good? Whats good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarBrar 1 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Just now, ZiggyZiggs said: It always has and always will be. DarBar, Whats good? Whats good? Well, at least you're open about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Veil 2,395 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Pence when he got put on the spot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 10 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: It is entirely relevant. Rhetoric has a very very strong effect on the country, as I've said. That's a MAJOR reason people vote for their president, they believe the rhetoric will translate into policy and practice. Also, the presidency is not a job where you just wave your hands and make things happen. You have to have MATURITY, good speaking skills, diplomacy, a willingness to compromise, respect for all other people, and a hell of a lot more. Donald Trump showed repeatedly that he has none of these. This is just how effective leadership governs. Why should the President be someone who does not have the interets of all of his people in mind? If you don't think that's relevant Ofc, if you believe "political correctness" is destroying this country, then ofc, you think words are just words Words motivate actions, and Donald Trump has re-ignited bigotry into this country, its literally spreading like wildfire. Also, if you dont want to talk about rhetoric and temperament, Hillary Clinton was objectively a more qualified candidate. She has a history in compromise, had very good approval ratings, was known as a good mediator, good diplomacy skills, experience in the white house itself, and is very intelligent and had good policies; on top of that she was malleable, and known for reaching across the aisle to make change happen. You can NOT seriously defend Trump on the basis that if you remove rhetoric and temperament, he was even a decent candidate. He had almost no policy of his own, just general statements he couldn't explain, he showed his lack of expertise at every time. He WON because of Rhetoric. He should have lost because of Rhetoric, Temperament, and qualification. He's not fit to lead. I addressed all of your points re: the electorate and what is important to them in my previous post, so I won't repeat them here as you have already proven that you will just ignore them. You're also so far off base about his lack of policies that it's absurd. I also stated that in my previous post. If you watched only the debates, which were almost entirely focused on 3-second sound bites, both about Hillary's emails and about Donald's tape from 20 years ago, you won't have learned much. But he has established principles and policies that he has proposed - he has stated them in interviews, he has stated them at rallies(of which there are hundreds and hundreds of hours of video clips), his surrogates have stated them, and if you choose not to listen then that's your prerogative. There is just a lack of logic in the position that you're taking, and that's where I find your position to be the most offensive to your credibility. You can whine and moan about "offensive words" and "let's all hold hands," but there was a reason a great number of people didn't trust Hillary Clinton, and there was a reason that Donald Trump won, and you can spin it as the country hates women and suddenly all the racists and bigots came to vote, but that's an excuse, and you know it. Look, your post in its entirety doesn't even address the main points that I brought up, you only brought up the standard points that every single person does. I brought into the discussion separate entities that were really what the American voters were concerned with, but if you're as irrationally hung up on certain issues as you've been told to do, that's unfortunate, and that's something that hopefully you'll be able to address in the future, or else you will continue to be blind-sided by politics and follow one train of thought unquestionably until the end of time. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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