Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: Imagine you move to America and you sit together with students of Middle Eastern origin, some of you become loud and obnoxious, irritating the teacher and he or she yells at all of you: "shut the **** up, you sand n***ers camel jokey terrorists!" It's very specific racial slur and insult, no amount of anger justifies it. Umm. So basically what happened in the video just with a different race? The same logic applies. Literally. No matter if its a black teacher and a room full of white students, or the other way around. If ya'll truly want to combat racism, this perception that it only exists on "white vs other races"- that premise will have to be discarded and a further understanding of what racism is. See here: "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." ^^ Definition of racism. So if you have ever asked an asian friend for help on math homework and you arrived at the conclusion to ask them because they would most likely be more inclined to be correct due to their ethnicity, you have taken part in racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,665 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, Justinn said: If it were to be discovered that the black student called the white teacher a "cracker ass honkey" prior to the video beginning, should the student be expelled? Or should he be given a chance to rectify his mistakes? After all, school is about education and preparing individuals for the real world. We wouldn't want to falsely prepare the student for his career and set a precedent for him to believe he would not be fired from a job for calling someone a "cracker ass honkey". Just asking. you can't compare those two. He is a student. He would get suspended not fired because he is a child. She is a grown woman who should've been mature enough to walk away from the situation and come back when she could handle it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,680 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, Justinn said: So people are not allowed to make mistakes? Should this always be the punishment? Would you feel the same way if you lost your cool (and are you telling me that you have never) and said something you didn't mean? I've lost my cool but never said anything racist towards someone like that. Racism is frowned upon by most people in our society. Calling someone 'stupid' is passable. Degrading yourself to racial slurs is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, Justinn said: You certainly think this teacher is a racist. Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because she JUST showed her true colors in that video. There is evidence. You still didn't provide any for Shaun King. The rest of your post is full of ignorance and flamebait. You have no idea who you are talking to. You have no idea what racism means. Learn your history. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Devyn said: you can't compare those two. He is a student. He would get suspended not fired because he is a child. She is a grown woman who should've been mature enough to walk away from the situation and come back when she could handle it. I can easily turn this around on you and say you are only saying that because the teacher is white and the student is black. See how convenient this is? It's all a sham and a complete waste of time. Or if it was a white kid wearing a Trump t-shirt that called a black teacher a "******" you'd say expel him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Just now, YourSweet666 said: Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because she JUST showed her true colors in that video. There is evidence. You still didn't provide any for Shaun King. The rest of your post is full of ignorance and flamebait. You have no idea who you are talking to. You have no idea what racism means. Learn your history. I know exactly what racism is. Do you know better than me? If so why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,680 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Justinn said: I can easily turn this around on you and say you are only saying that because the teacher is white and the student is black. See how convenient this is? It's all a sham and a complete waste of time. No. A child cannot be fired. Worst case scenario the child is moved to another school. Has NOTHING to do with their race. You have it all twisted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,665 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Just now, Justinn said: I can easily turn this around on you and say you are only saying that because the teacher is white and the student is black. See how convenient this is? It's all a sham and a complete waste of time. i'm only saying it cause she called them ******'s and said they'd be shot! I could turn this around and say if it were a black teacher with white students, you'd be the first to scream racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, Justinn said: Umm. So basically what happened in the video just with a different race? The same logic applies. Literally. Yikes! I am not surprised you'd defend that too! Your racism has no bounderies. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: No. A child cannot be fired. Worst case scenario the child is moved to another school. Has NOTHING to do with their race. You have it all twisted. This very post has everything to do with racism. I do not have it all twisted. The child gets to continue their education at a different school with little consequence, but this lady will probably lose her job and struggle. Yeah she made a mistake but should she really be burned at the stake for this? If she's not fired, the school board will be rioted, vandalized, and labeled as white supremacists. So really, her fate is already decided- tell me I am wrong. She should be fired immediately and irrevocably according to most on here. What about due process and investigating the circumstances? Isnt that the very same thing ya'll cry for when people resist arrest and get shot for doing so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 That's something you should never say, especially if you're a teacher who is close to young generations and who has an impact on the youth. She should get fired, and I don't even care if she didn't really mean it or if it was in a moment of anger. Just no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Devyn said: i'm only saying it cause she called them ******'s and said they'd be shot! I could turn this around and say if it were a black teacher with white students, you'd be the first to scream racism. It doesn't matter who screams it. That's my point. But your very dear champions of social justice would have stiffer consequences on a white person than a black person. Please tell me I am wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 There are about three and a half million teachers in the US. On any given day, teachers will be pushed to anger in classrooms across the country. The overwhelmingly large majority of these adults manage to call for help, step next door to get another teacher or handle the situation in their classroom. Thousands of teachers every year handle situations without resorting to hate speech or violence. They are the adults in this situation. They have had training, classes and seminars in classroom management and have been given options for out of control situations. The choice is NEVER hate speech or physical confrontation. If a teacher resorts to either one of these actions, they should be fired immediately. There is a huge difference between a teacher losing it and yelling something general and a teacher that specifically targets the race of the kids in their meltdown. The latter is never acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Whispering said: There are about three and a half million teachers in the US. On any given day, teachers will be pushed to anger in classrooms across the country. The overwhelmingly large majority of these adults manage to call for help, step next door to get another teacher or handle the situation in their classroom. Thousands of teachers every year handle situations without resorting to hate speech or violence. They are the adults in this situation. They have had training, classes and seminars in classroom management and have been given options for out of control situations. The choice is NEVER hate speech or physical confrontation. If a teacher resorts to either one of these actions, they should be fired immediately. There is a huge difference between a teacher losing it and yelling something general and a teacher that specifically targets the race of the kids in their meltdown. The latter is never acceptable. Exactly It's not even a question if she meant it or not, if she "lost her cool" or whatever. That sentence that she said can not be justified in any way. The end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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