Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: I have stated that trump has done some things that weren't smart. but this perception of him is wildly over the top. Not even. His entire history and the things he has done in his life completely justify the magnitude of the criticism he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, Gagaloo92 said: Lol just stop, you're making a fool of himself. His entire MESSAGE and CAMPAIGN was about racial resentment and anger white America is feeling right now as a result of progress in equality and civil rights which has resulted in an increased competition in many areas including the labor market. Now, instead of white people only having to worry about competing against themselves, they have to compete with others as well. That sets you up for more white people getting "left out". I mean welcome to the experience of minorities and people of color who were not able to participate and do certain things, and were left out for pretty much all of US history. Talk about white entitlement. This is not even mentioning the automation of industry which has caused catastrophic job loss and which is not going to be coming back no matter how much people think it can come back. Yes, some of it can if jobs are brought back from overseas, but due to automation it will never be on the same level as it once was. His message tapped into the anger and resentment some white people have for not fully getting to mask in their white privilege glory. It's beginning to be dismantled, and these white people are feeling threatened by it. Enter Trump and the symbolization he has for these white people, and the meaning behind "Make America great again" becomes all too clear: make America unequal again, where white i've already covered the impact of the media on people's perceptions. he has said certain things that i find annoying, but overall it's an exaggeration. of course he's said some stupid soundbites, and even suggested a few ridiculous concepts. i didn't vote for him. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: i've already covered the impact of the media on people's perceptions. he has said certain things that i find annoying, but overall it's an exaggeration. of course he's said some stupid soundbites, and even suggested a few ridiculous concepts. i didn't vote for him. You didn't even read or likely even have the means to comprehend what I wrote, and the speed at which you wrote this baseless, inaccurate comment is proof of that. It's literally not even up for debate, you're wrong and you know it. May as well accept it. Trump will continue to get all the criticism that he asked for and which he deserves. And the demonstrations against him will only get larger and larger. People aren't having him and his xenophobic, white supremacist views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, Gagaloo92 said: Not even. His entire history and the things he has done in his life completely justify the magnitude of the criticism he gets. no, it doesn't. this pretending to not understand the english language is preposterous. his intentions are direct and clear. this world of "political correctness" is f*cking ridiculous. everything is a phobia. everything is bullying. everything is an assault. everything is a direct, personal attack, as long as it can be construed that way in any possible form. everyone knows he has suggested some outrageous policies. but a homophobe, or a xenophobe, or any of those things, he is not. and that is a fact. he is not culpable for the INSANE reaction that society has towards his straightforward manner of speaking. this PC culture has been building for a long, long time, and i'm ready for someone to come knock it down. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: I have stated that trump has done some things that weren't smart. but this perception of him is wildly over the top. The perception if him is from his own words. He insulted multiple minority groups on multiple occasions and championed policies that are discriminatory and will be moving us backwards. Everyone isn't imagining these issues...they are paying attention to what he has said repeatedly throughout the campaign. When someone tells you who they are, believe them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: no, it doesn't. this pretending to not understand the english language is preposterous. his intentions are direct and clear. this world of "political correctness" is f*cking ridiculous. everything is a phobia. everything is bullying. everything is an assault. everything is a direct, personal attack, as long as it can be construed that way in any possible form. everyone knows he has suggested some outrageous policies. but a homophobe, or a xenophobe, or any of those things, he is not. and that is a fact. he is not culpable for the INSANE reaction that society has towards his straightforward manner of speaking. this PC culture has been building for a long, long time, and i'm ready for someone to come knock it down. I literally loathe the way in which you PC nazis use the PC term as a way of trying to silence, discredit and undermine honest discussions about the ways in which race, gender, sexuality, and class operate in our society. Maybe you aren't willing to speak openly and honestly about systemic and institutional racism, sexism, and heteronormativity in this country, but a large majority of us are, and we won't rest until the day when they are all dismantled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: no, it doesn't. this pretending to not understand the english language is preposterous. his intentions are direct and clear. this world of "political correctness" is f*cking ridiculous. everything is a phobia. everything is bullying. everything is an assault. everything is a direct, personal attack, as long as it can be construed that way in any possible form. everyone knows he has suggested some outrageous policies. but a homophobe, or a xenophobe, or any of those things, he is not. and that is a fact. he is not culpable for the INSANE reaction that society has towards his straightforward manner of speaking. this PC culture has been building for a long, long time, and i'm ready for someone to come knock it down. The funny thing is when "straight forwardness," or as you like to call it "insults," is brought upon you, you get upset about it. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Gagaloo92 said: You didn't even read or likely even have the means to comprehend what I wrote, and the speed at which you wrote this baseless, inaccurate comment is proof of that. It's literally not even up for debate, you're wrong and you know it. May as well accept it. Trump will continue to get all the criticism that he asked for and which he deserves. And the demonstrations against him will only get larger and larger. People aren't having him and his xenophobic, white supremacist views. good, they can rally all they want. i love what they're demonstrating. the media has built trump as representing a terrible, horrible thing, who represents homophobia, xenophobia, etc. so they can demonstrate all they want, because they are protesting that IDEA. trump has been very, very clear when he explains any statement that gets run in the media, but does the media run those explanations? no. there is media bias going on just like the conservative media focused on hillary's e-mails, and the FBI suddenly started investigating the e-mails again a week before the election, and they just happened to be on ANTHONY WEINER'S computer who was simultaneously sexting 15 year old girls. no party is perfect, just like the conservative media planted all of the trouble with the e-mails and filled the minds of the conservatives with that nonsense, the liberal media supplied the narrative on trump, and it was easy because they were in part, CORRECT! but they took it to EXTREMES. There is no denying that. most of the statements were just soundbites, or irrelevant crude jokes. MOST. if the media hadn't played that up constantly, then that would be considered just the way he talks. he has stated explicitly his policies, expectations, and intentions, which is widely ignored. i heard the same 2 second soundbite for 5 months, and the way the media spun it, it was like he had said that soundbite for the entire 5 months rather than 2 seconds. but, to sum it all up, no. the protestors should continue protesting. i support what idea they're protesting. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said: I literally loathe the way in which you PC nazis use the PC term as a way of trying to silence, discredit and undermine honest discussions about the ways in which race, gender, sexuality, and class operate in our society. Maybe you aren't willing to speak openly and honestly about systemic and institutional racism, sexism, and heteronormativity in this country, but a large majority of us are, and we won't rest until the day when they are all dismantled. that's a bit of a stretch and many, over-the-top, assumptions. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: The funny thing is when "straight forwardness," or as you like to call it "insults," is brought upon you, you get upset about it. no. i am having a discussion without insulting anyone in any way. whenever someone replaces a discussion with an insult, like you did earlier, i prefer to just stop the discussion. that's not called "being upset." that is knowing what i feel like doing, which is be entertained with a discussion. if you are unable to continue that discussion, then i move on. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: good, they can rally all they want. i love what they're demonstrating. the media has built trump as representing a terrible, horrible thing, who represents homophobia, xenophobia, etc. so they can demonstrate all they want, because they are protesting that IDEA. trump has been very, very clear when he explains any statement that gets run in the media, but does the media run those explanations? no. there is media bias going on just like the conservative media focused on hillary's e-mails, and the FBI suddenly started investigating the e-mails again a week before the election, and they just happened to be on ANTHONY WEINER'S computer who was simultaneously sexting 15 year old girls. no party is perfect, just like the conservative media planted all of the trouble with the e-mails and filled the minds of the conservatives with that nonsense, the liberal media supplied the narrative on trump, and it was easy because they were in part, CORRECT! but they took it to EXTREMES. There is no denying that. most of the statements were just soundbites, or irrelevant crude jokes. MOST. if the media hadn't played that up constantly, then that would be considered just the way he talks. he has stated explicitly his policies, expectations, and intentions, which is widely ignored. i heard the same 2 second soundbite for 5 months, and the way the media spun it, it was like he had said that soundbite for the entire 5 months rather than 2 seconds. but, to sum it all up, no. the protestors should continue protesting. i support what idea they're protesting. You do make some good points and thoughts here. I guess I can see where you are coming from in part as perhaps there has been some exaggeration on part of the media, but not for due cause. His hateful rhetoric has not exactly been good and healthy for our nation But I am glad to see you can see the reasoning and everything behind the demonstrations, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Bebe said: That's so funny, here I was thinking that Trump feeding the conspiracy that the first Black President was illegitimate and was actually born in Kenya was racist! I thought that threatening to ban all Muslims entering the country was islamophobic! I thought calling Megan Kelly a 'bimbo' who was tough on him because she was 'bleeding from her wherever' was sexist! I thought characterising Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists (with some, he assumes, being ok) was racist! I thought saying thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey cheered the 9/11 attacks (which is obviously false) was islamophobic! I thought saying a distinguished federal judge, born in Indiana, couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, ‘He’s a Mexican.’ was racist! I thought when he said: “Is there anyone who doesn’t renegotiate deals in this room? Perhaps more than any room I’ve spoken to.” And “You’re not going to support me, because I don’t want your money, you want to control your own politician.” To the Republican Jewish Coalition that seemed kinda anti-semitic! I mean really??? That's all just from the campaign trail too, he has a long recorded history of racism. This is my favourite one because it's so blatant and Trump acknowledged that he "probably" said it. "Next in the Trump record on race came a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.” O’Donnell’s report was shocking, but Trump did not contest it at the time. In 1997 he was interviewed for Playboy by author Mark Bowden and he confirmed that the O’Donnell book was “probably true.”"http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/ I mean come on... David Duke wasn't gleefully boasting about how his ideas have gone mainstream and how Trump talks about things he has been saying for decades because he gets all his information from the liberal media and got confused. The number of neo-nazi ultra-nationalist factions supporting Trump are not doing so because they heard he was racist on MSNBC. Trump supporters where not yelling "JEW-S-A!" at reporters, saying black people were better off as slaves, saying they have no respect for muslims and buying merchandise like "Trump That Bitch!" and "Hillary sucks! But not as much as Monica!" Because they were watching CNN and mistakenly thought Trump shared those values. Saving this for when I need to clock people who are like "TRUMP ISN'T RACIST!" on my facebook 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Gagaloo92 said: Your reason, logic and way of thinking is a bit of a stretch. Guess you can't think up anything better to counter-argue something accurate though no. you called me a PC nazi for some reason, for starters, so that was a bit of an assumption. there have been an unfathomable amount of times that people who don't mean anything suddenly have their lives destroyed. like this example: she posted a risque joke on twitter to her friend group. it's a joke. doesn't mean anything. someone she doesn't know finds it, spreads it to the news, she loses her job, her finances, becomes broke and homeless. harassed to this day. every single thing on twitter and online is taken to an EXTREME! there are so many examples I almost feel like I'm doing them a disservice for not posting them all. but I'm sure anyone reading this can think of COUNTLESS examples. THAT is PC going too far. Not open, fair discussions about racism, sexuality, etc. The example I cited is going too far. Where innocent people are basically made examples of in order to advance a narrative. So your entire point was an assumption, because that was not what I was referring to. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manyatyau 262 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 So maybe I'm right. Trump is really not that bad. He talks sh''t but he doesn't really wanna do sh'mt. Like my dad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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