AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Whispering said: Yes, we know, because you keep telling us that you didn't vote for him. What you are doing now is supporting him with misinformation and excusing his bigotry. Again, I have yet to hear anyone give me an intelligent and thought provoking argument for Trump. I ask and I get ignored because they really don't know much about him They just want to be special snowflakes. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,289 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: his campaign was founded on upholding immigration policies. the liberal media applied racism and bigotry to him That's so funny, here I was thinking that Trump feeding the conspiracy that the first Black President was illegitimate and was actually born in Kenya was racist! I thought that threatening to ban all Muslims entering the country was islamophobic! I thought calling Megan Kelly a 'bimbo' who was tough on him because she was 'bleeding from her wherever' was sexist! I thought characterising Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists (with some, he assumes, being ok) was racist! I thought saying thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey cheered the 9/11 attacks (which is obviously false) was islamophobic! I thought saying a distinguished federal judge, born in Indiana, couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, ‘He’s a Mexican.’ was racist! I thought when he said: “Is there anyone who doesn’t renegotiate deals in this room? Perhaps more than any room I’ve spoken to.” And “You’re not going to support me, because I don’t want your money, you want to control your own politician.” To the Republican Jewish Coalition that seemed kinda anti-semitic! I mean really??? That's all just from the campaign trail too, he has a long recorded history of racism. This is my favourite one because it's so blatant and Trump acknowledged that he "probably" said it. "Next in the Trump record on race came a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.” O’Donnell’s report was shocking, but Trump did not contest it at the time. In 1997 he was interviewed for Playboy by author Mark Bowden and he confirmed that the O’Donnell book was “probably true.”"http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/ I mean come on... David Duke wasn't gleefully boasting about how his ideas have gone mainstream and how Trump talks about things he has been saying for decades because he gets all his information from the liberal media and got confused. The number of neo-nazi ultra-nationalist factions supporting Trump are not doing so because they heard he was racist on MSNBC. Trump supporters where not yelling "JEW-S-A!" at reporters, saying black people were better off as slaves, saying they have no respect for muslims and buying merchandise like "Trump That Bitch!" and "Hillary sucks! But not as much as Monica!" Because they were watching CNN and mistakenly thought Trump shared those values. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 13 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: Please enlighten me. go through my post histories and the topics i've made. i've been enlightening. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: go through my post histories and the topics i've made. i've been enlightening. Obviously not because nothing stuck with me I mean you can try and simplify his terrible behavior as "not that bad" but all of my friends who are minorities are scared shitless because they have been harassed by his supporters whether when they are going out, at the mall, or in class. It's not called the Trump effect for nothing. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, AlexanderLevi2 said: Obviously not because nothing stuck with me I mean you can try and simplify his terrible behavior as "not that bad" but all of my friends who are minorities are scared shitless because they have been harassed by his supporters whether when they are going out, at the mall, or in class. It's not called the Trump effect for nothing. that's not my problem to follow you around repeating what i've already said. you either have seen it, or you haven't. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: that's not my problem to follow you around repeating what i've already said. you either have seen it, or you haven't. I've seen it and read it but again, nothing that stuck with me. Guess it just wasn't that good Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: I've seen it and read it but again, nothing that stuck with me. Guess it just wasn't that good i hate to use this term, but leave it to a clintbot to completely derail the subject at hand. i have posted eloquent, thought-provoking content on this matter. i have also been nothing but polite to you. i would appreciate it if you would kindly refrain from talking to me. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: i hate to use this term, but leave it to a clintbot to completely derail the subject at hand. i have posted eloquent, thought-provoking content on this matter. i have also been nothing but polite to you. i would appreciate it if you would kindly refrain from talking to me. OH Jesus. You are so "eloquent" and "thought-provoking." Do I need to stroke your ego some more to make you feel better? If you can't handle it, don't start it. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, AlexanderLevi2 said: OH Jesus. You are so "eloquent" and "though-provoking." Do I need to stroke your ego some more to make you feel better? If you can't handle it, don't start it. Okay, I'm legitimately confused. I didn't start anything. I literally just was having a conversation. You went off-track and insulted me when I was having a conversation on a topic that concerns all of us, and the facts are that I'm not wildly flailing around and shrieking that the sky is falling, I'm trying to analyze what is actually going on, and I put in my input when I see something that I consider is inaccurate. I even agreed with you in this topic. So, unfortunately, I don't have any idea why you became so hostile. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: Okay, I'm legitimately confused. I didn't start anything. I literally just was having a conversation. You went off-track and insulted me when I was having a conversation on a topic that concerns all of us, and the facts are that I'm not wildly flailing around and shrieking that the sky is falling, I'm trying to analyze what is actually going on, and I put in my input when I see something that I consider is inaccurate. I even agreed with you in this topic. So, unfortunately, I don't have any idea why you became so hostile. I mean saying that the liberal media COMPLETELY twisted his words and he was actually trying to speak upon policy is a complete joke. I agree, the media on both sides twists things but thinking he isn't speaking to the racists, homophobes, and etc. of this country is just complete ignorance. But again, ignorance is bliss. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 20 minutes ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: go through my post histories and the topics i've made. i've been enlightening. Look at the comment from Bebe right above this comment. You are misinformed and are ignoring Trump's own words. He pushed racism, xenophobia and misogyny throughout his campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 27 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: I mean saying that the liberal media COMPLETELY twisted his words and he was actually trying to speak upon policy is a complete joke. I agree, the media on both sides twists things but thinking he isn't speaking to the racists, homophobes, and etc. of this country is just complete ignorance. But again, ignorance is bliss. there you go again, with insults. lol. whatever man. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: there are plenty of intelligent arguments defending him. maybe not on one or two things. Lol just stop, you're making a fool of himself. His entire MESSAGE and CAMPAIGN was about racial resentment and anger white America is feeling right now as a result of progress in equality and civil rights which has resulted in an increased competition in many areas including the labor market. Now, instead of white people only having to worry about competing against themselves, they have to compete with others as well. That sets you up for more white people getting "left out". I mean welcome to the experience of minorities and people of color who were not able to participate and do certain things, and were left out for pretty much all of US history. Talk about white entitlement. This is not even mentioning the automation of industry which has caused catastrophic job loss and which is not going to be coming back no matter how much people think it can come back. Yes, some of it can if jobs are brought back from overseas, but due to automation it will never be on the same level as it once was. His message tapped into the anger and resentment some white people have for not fully getting to mask in their white privilege. It's beginning to be dismantled, and these white people are feeling threatened by it. Enter Trump and the symbolization he has for these white people, and the meaning behind "Make America great again" becomes all too clear for what Trump and many of his supporters read into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 22 minutes ago, Whispering said: Look at the comment from Bebe right above this comment. You are misinformed and are ignoring Trump's own words. He pushed racism, xenophobia and misogyny throughout his campaign. I have stated that trump has done some things that weren't smart. but this perception of him is wildly over the top. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: there you go again, with insults. lol. whatever man. That really upsets you? I'm sorry that I'm not baby-ing you through the process, I just tell it how it is. Ignorance is not an insult. It just means people are willing to make excuses for things because they don't want to think things are a certain way. It's more of a neutral statement than a negative one. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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