GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 16 hours ago, YourSweet666 said: Hellooooo omg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerQueen 1,983 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Yes, he will be miserable dealing with all the whiney people in America. Lace up my boots, throw on some leather and cruise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,860 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 18 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: I can't understand how there is a large group that truly, truly believes that this man is not an extremely hard, dedicated worker with more responsibility than 99% of all people would even know what to do with. I mean it's literally like calling Bill Gates "stupid." You HAVE to be the BEST to get to the point that they're at. Oprah, Bill Gates, etc. you name it. Trump is one of THE hardest working, capable businessman. Period. To say otherwise is ignorant. It doesn't matter what your political party is. There are certain facts of life, and there are much better ways to insult him without using insults that are OBVIOUSLY not true. There seems to be a perception that his father giving him less than .1% of his current wealth somehow was THE cause of his success. Its almost as if there are a ton of BITTER people. Somehow the entire real estate market crash of the 90s was solely his fault, and the fact all of his peers failed during that period and he persevered and grew his business even MORE, was somehow just luck. Let's not forget that he personally bought and sold property, with great success, while he was still in school, without assistance, then went on and basically strong-armed people his ENTIRE life until he got what he wanted. And now he's on our side. The post you quoted even indicates that he's "going to get tired sitting in meetings all day" like he doesn't already do that. This man sleeps 3-4 hours a night, and works all day, every day. You might not like the way he speaks, and he might be a baboon, but he is an incredibly capable, intelligent man with basic instincts like no other. His entire life he has hired the right people, has a knack for involving the most capable people there are, and delegating tasks and setting up structure to great organizations is his forte. I voted for Hillary. But, Trump is not a lost cause. He gets things done. He makes good deals. I'm waiting for the quote calling me a "Trump supporter" or whatever, but you know what, he's the president elect and I WILL support him. The moment gay rights get taken away, I'm rioting in the streets, however. I somewhat agree. He clearly knows business But knowing business and knowing how to run a country are two different things with different dynamics and hes got no experience in politics We will have to see what comes of it Im especially worried about beefing up infrastructure spending while cutting taxes at the same time. While that will boost the economy innevitably, Its will finish destroying Americas already bad finances You dont wrecklessly go into the red when you have a debt to GDP ratio of over 100% then u end up like Japan that has to borrow half its money cuz its so deep in debt the interest payments just choke it to death and they cant get out of it. Their debt in ration to economy is largest in the world at 230% of GDP Japan isnt talked about much these days cause their issues are old, started before any of us were born but one day they will meltdown and collapse and affect the whole world with it America doesnt need to get into that path too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,289 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: I didn't read any of your links or any of your rationalization as to why Donald Trump is a lazy, no-good, senseless businessman who just HAPPENED to stumble across billions and become one of the strongest, most-enduring business owners of our lifetime. If you truly think he is not a capable businessman, I cannot help you. It's a lost cause. He might not be a good president, but he is a DAMN hard worker, and I honestly have no words to respond to someone saying otherwise. You do not get to his level off of being lazy. That's a FACT. The end. Edit: But I'm laughing at the hypocrisy at "he sucks because he should have just invested it and made more." My point is that he's a hard worker. How is investing it and doing nothing related to my point? My point is related to what he actually did, which is actually put in work. Why is anyone bringing up ways that he could have, in the ideal world, made more money by doing nothing? That is literally the opposite of what I'm saying, and completely unrelated. My point is related to his work ethic. Also, Donald trump is a self-made billionaire. He was given a few millions. This makes the average joe instantly jealous and dismissive of the accomplishments that extend from that. Would he have gotten to the place he's at now without that gift? Who knows, but what he did with it was turn around and multiply it by literally 8,000%. 99% of the population is not able to turn around and do that with any amount of money. But again, that is unrelated to his work ethic. This gift from God does not affect the actual work he did with that gift. I never said he was a genius. I said he's a hard worker. Im also not interested in hearing about how he's a slow speaker or he doesn't know anything about politics. That wasn't my point. My point was very specific, and related to his capacity to work extremely hard, as there's this STRANGE opinion that he just j*rks off all day and gets paid. It doesn't make sense, it just doesn't appeal to common sense. If you're going to insult the guy, at least do it on something that's sensible, like his lack of experience in government, or his lack of known policy plans, or his Twitter rants. But not his work ethic. "I'm laughing at the hypocrisy at "he sucks because he should have just invested it and made more." My point is that he's a hard worker." Umm, you actually made several point. You said: 'You might not like the way he speaks, and he might be a baboon, but he is an incredibly capable, intelligent man with basic instincts like no other." I countered those points. The closest people to him say that he is incompetent as a manager, knows nothing about taxes, is cruel, is lazy, can't take advice and is unbelievably stupid. You say he is 'incredibly capable' those who know him disagree and his record shows otherwise. You say he is intelligent, but he speaks like a 4th grader and his record shows otherwise. You say he is a hard worker, but his own campaign and those who worked with him say otherwise. You also called him, and continue to call him, a ' self-made billionaire' because he inherited a few million and turned that into billions but - once again - he could have (and should have) invested that money and done nothing with it - he would be billions richer. You need money to make money - A quarter of a billion inherited by his father is a nice step towards a billion. It's not that impressive that he is a billionaire, he should be... Once again, if you bothered to read the articles you would see how unimpressive that is. But there is no point in talking to you if you refuse to click on links to articles where respected economists, respected businessmen, respected news outlets and close employees talk about how Trump made his money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,166 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 20 hours ago, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: I can't understand how there is a large group that truly, truly believes that this man is not an extremely hard, dedicated worker with more responsibility than 99% of all people would even know what to do with. I mean it's literally like calling Bill Gates "stupid." You HAVE to be the BEST to get to the point that they're at. Oprah, Bill Gates, etc. you name it. Trump is one of THE hardest working, capable businessman. Period. To say otherwise is ignorant. It doesn't matter what your political party is. There are certain facts of life, and there are much better ways to insult him without using insults that are OBVIOUSLY not true. There seems to be a perception that his father giving him less than .1% of his current wealth somehow was THE cause of his success. Its almost as if there are a ton of BITTER people. Somehow the entire real estate market crash of the 90s was solely his fault, and the fact all of his peers failed during that period and he persevered and grew his business even MORE, was somehow just luck. Let's not forget that he personally bought and sold property, with great success, while he was still in school, without assistance, then went on and basically strong-armed people his ENTIRE life until he got what he wanted. And now he's on our side. The post you quoted even indicates that he's "going to get tired sitting in meetings all day" like he doesn't already do that. This man sleeps 3-4 hours a night, and works all day, every day. You might not like the way he speaks, and he might be a baboon, but he is an incredibly capable, intelligent man with basic instincts like no other. His entire life he has hired the right people, has a knack for involving the most capable people there are, and delegating tasks and setting up structure to great organizations is his forte. I voted for Hillary. But, Trump is not a lost cause. He gets things done. He makes good deals. I'm waiting for the quote calling me a "Trump supporter" or whatever, but you know what, he's the president elect and I WILL support him. The moment gay rights get taken away, I'm rioting in the streets, however. The difference though that this is the government. This isn't a business, this is the fundamental core and principle of the United States of America. He may be a hard worker, he may be diligent, but he has 0 experience in the political realm. 0 experience. Hell, he was pandering Hillary about "not doing anything for the past 30 years" and calling her out for "not doing anything in the Senate". She can't do anything alone in the Senate! There's a 100 of them and then you got the House and even then the President can veto whatever Congress tries to do. Yes, he is a hard worker, yes, he's made a fortune, but this is a whole different era. His VP supports gay conversion therapy, he himself has made multiple, heinous statements about Mexicans, women, and Muslims. When you've whose rhetoric has been hateful, I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something, because I don't see how he's fit. It's ironic because we've had (mostly) Republicans implement laissez faire policies in order to keep government and business separate, and now we've brought the two together. Don't get me wrong, he may do great things for business, but he himself is a businessman. Don't think that he's not going to try to play the game for his favor. I really want him to be a good president, I do, but at this moment in time, I don't have enough faith in him that he will. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 51 minutes ago, M Monstre said: His VP supports gay conversion therapy Really? Because Snopes says that's false. Sent from my LG VX4500 "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,166 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 21 minutes ago, Goosey said: Really? Because Snopes says that's false. Sent from my LG VX4500 http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/28/gavin-newsom/true-mike-pence-advocated-conversion-therapy/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-assault-lgbtq-equality_us_58275a17e4b02d21bbc8ff9b http://www.teenvogue.com/story/mike-pence-record-reproductive-rights-lgbtq-refugees And finally, he's just an overall disgusting homophobic person: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/07/mike-pences-top-seven-homophobic-moments-many/ 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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