JbGaga 2,261 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 minute ago, MonsterPaws said: Btw, how long do you think these protests will go on? I'll be visiting NYC this Fri or Sat. Went there last year and fell in love (I'm easily impressed). But idk if it's a good idea to go anymore I think there will some things going on mostly at night and around Trump Tower/ 5th ave. You should be ok. It halts transportation and movment here bigtime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 27 minutes ago, SomethingMore said: how about blame ....nobody? There is no point in riots. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/04/496526099/polish-women-hold-black-monday-strike-to-protest-proposed-abortion-ban https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/05/polish-government-performs-u-turn-on-total-abortion-ban The more they protest, the more they retain their rights. They have to show their strength of mobilisation right at the beginning to show that they won't be able to take away minorities' and women's rights and other human rights that easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,976 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, SKANK said: Of course that isn't how it works, but that doesn't mean you have to be complacent and accepting of our syst em That doesn't mean you blame the winner because you don't like him. Gaga isn't blaming the system, she's blaming Trump, which is wrong. Maybe she should be blaming the Democrats for not choosing a better candidate or blame Hillary for not having a more convincing campaign. Look at this objectively, to put the blame on Trump because he won is just ridiculous. Despite not supporting Trump, Obama has been respectful on Trump's win and wants him to be welcomed into the White House. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, MonsterPaws said: Hilary won the popular vote. I still don't know how it works, but technically the American people did choose Hilary. No... They choose trump. Popular vote means nothing. And the popular vote difference wasn't that substantial anyway. Obama lost the popular vote aswell at one point I belive aswell so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphaz 7,958 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 She should just let it go and move on Nothing good is gonna come out of this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Just now, TheFame Monster said: That doesn't mean you blame the winner because you don't like him. Gaga isn't blaming the system, she's blaming Trump, which is wrong. Maybe she should be blaming the Democrats for not choosing a better candidate or blame Hillary for not having a more convincing campaign. Look at this objectively, to put the blame on Trump because he won is just ridiculous. There is plenty of blame to go around; the press, voters, the DNC, Hillary herself. But there is nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that Trump ran a divisive campaign that dramatically stoked racial tensions in this country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,742 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, JbGaga said: No... They choose trump. Popular vote means nothing. And the popular vote difference wasn't that substantial anyway. Obama lost the popular vote aswell at one point I belive aswell so... I keep getting mixed responses as to whether Obama lost the popular vote or not. I should start doing my own extensive research gosh darn it Thank you once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I thought she said we should love Trump and his supporters and spread peace or whatever she said.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, TheFame Monster said: That doesn't mean you blame the winner because you don't like him. Gaga isn't blaming the system, she's blaming Trump, which is wrong. Maybe she should be blaming the Democrats for not choosing a better candidate or blame Hillary for not having a more convincing campaign. Look at this objectively, to put the blame on Trump because he won is just ridiculous. Despite not supporting Trump, Obama has been respectful on Trump's win and wants him to be welcomed into the White House. Exit polls show Dems didn't come out for her. She was a Flaud candidate weather people here like it or not. Mabey if these people who are protesting came out to vote this wouldn't have happened. People have no one to blame but themselfs and its time to come together and accept it. And I'm shocked Gaga isent staying true to that and very disapointed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, JbGaga said: No... They choose trump. Popular vote means nothing. And the popular vote difference wasn't that substantial anyway. Obama lost the popular vote aswell at one point I belive aswell so... A candidate winning the election but loosing the popular vote has only happened six times. Obama won the popular vote in 2008 and 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, MonsterPaws said: I keep getting mixed responses as to whether Obama lost the popular vote or not. I should start doing my own extensive research gosh darn it Thank you once again. Np! come and have fun! It will be ok just stay safe and aware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZiggs 30,063 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, JbGaga said: No... They choose trump. Popular vote means nothing. And the popular vote difference wasn't that substantial anyway. Obama lost the popular vote aswell at one point I belive aswell so... There is a reason ppl are protesting. Its is no lie that Trump is a vile person who ran a very hateful campaign. Not shocked by the uproar. But it is going to instill FEAR inside HIM and he will think twice before repealing gay marriage etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Just now, ZiggyZiggs said: There is a reason ppl are protesting. Its is no lie that Trump is a vile person who ran a very hateful campaign. Not shocked by the uproar. But it is going instill FEAR inside HIM and he will think twice before repealing gay marriage etc. He is not going to think anything of it... Lmao I personaly don't think hes anti LGBT.I think he thinks it should be up to the states not the FEd which dosent mean you are Anti LGBT. I'm not shocked im just disappointed in people like Gaga for not promoting peace and unity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Fay said: I thought she said we should love Trump and his supporters and spread peace or whatever she said.. The biggestl hypocrite ever... She only ment it if HRC wins I guess. I have lost my faith in her as a person. Its sad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, JbGaga said: The biggestl hypocrite ever... She only ment it if HRC wins I guess. I have lost my faith in her as a person. Its sad Yes I agree, shes really starting to annoy me as a person.. I only am interested in her as an artist now and ive been a fan since 2008. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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