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German review: Gaga sings for a straight white America


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1 minute ago, living4theFAmE said:

So shameful, saying that only white straight Americans can enjoy this album....WTF! the hypocracy of trying to speak on behalf of the marginalized while putting them into a box where you believe they fit is astounding.

She nowhere said only white straight Americans enjoy it. 

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4 minutes ago, Sebs said:

she LITERALLY has a song about black lives matter. 

BYE FRAU FELICIEN

 

HAHAHA! Genau Schwester!

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:smh: 

I didn't read the full thing, but based on what's here, it just sounds like they heard the country vibes and ran with the idea that Gaga only cares about appealing to the typical country music listener. A mess. I'm certainly not straight nor do I have a strong sense of nationalistic pride, but I love the direction she's going in. She's rediscovered her love for music that's been with her since before The Fame, and at least for a little while, she wants to relive that part of her live by performing in bars.

I know that I might be off here because I haven't read the full thing and I mostly focused on the thread title alone, but oh well. :sis: 

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11 minutes ago, ReidOne said:

As someone who grew up in the midwest US and have been to more country bars than gay bars in my lifetime, I take slight offense at them saying country bars are "not a safe place" for gays. 

Yes, there are some rough ones, but most country bars are some of the most welcoming, relaxed places I've ever been to. And they have a "live and let live" mentality. 

Yes, you will occasionally encounter someone homophobic in a country bar. But in most cases it would only be "un safe" if you went out of your way to make other patrons uncomfortable or you acted inappropriately. 

Honestly, a gay person is way more likely to get punched in the face by another gay person who is drunk at a gay bar than you are at a honky tonk while enjoying a beer. 

You have to see the context. Many German newspapers are extremely intellectualistic and 'straight, white America' and more specifically the Republican party (before Trump happened) are seen by many as the biggest disgrace of the western world. It's partly an exaggeration and partly a stereotype.

on the other hand I thought the Süddeutsche Zeitung was conservative?

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A narrow minded and generalized view on what does and does not reach out to an audience.  

I guess the misfits can only be healed by edm and lyrics about ear condoms   :blink:

 

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I'm literally a Southerner. In the South of America. The Bible Belt. I go to country bars all the time, while wearing makeup and heels. I've never been beaten up, I'm ethnic and I'm the furthest thing from straight.

This is a literally clueless assessment with no context of what living in the South really is like. Trust a foreigner to think they know about this life and completely miss a point. This is messy and they should delete tbh. It's an insult to the South, Gaga, and all of her fans.

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6 minutes ago, Luc said:

You have to see the context. Many German newspapers are extremely intellectualistic and 'straight, white America' and more specifically the Republican party (before Trump happened) are seen by many as the biggest disgrace of the western world. It's partly an exaggeration and partly a stereotype.

on the other hand I thought the Süddeutsche Zeitung was conservative?

It's a rather leftist according to Wikipedia. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, ReidOne said:

As someone who grew up in the midwest US and have been to more country bars than gay bars in my lifetime, I take slight offense at them saying country bars are "not a safe place" for gays. 

Yes, there are some rough ones, but most country bars are some of the most welcoming, relaxed places I've ever been to. And they have a "live and let live" mentality. 

Yes, you will occasionally encounter someone homophobic in a country bar. But in most cases it would only be "un safe" if you went out of your way to make other patrons uncomfortable or you acted inappropriately. 

Honestly, a gay person is way more likely to get punched in the face by another gay person who is drunk at a gay bar than you are at a honky tonk while enjoying a beer. 

And I have been to the exact bar that she performed in in East Nashville, along with a lot of other bars like it in East, the ACTUAL Country honkytonks downtown on Broadway and have never felt in danger. That's just ridiculous. The 5 Spot is definitely not a "country" bar either. It's a hipster/urbana hangout - you see people from every aspect of life there.

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Edit: Because Germans know what the South in America is like. :laughga: 

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I'm not surprised that Americana/folk rock pop music wouldn't be received well by non English speaking countries since those genres aren't very popular there as it is. I remember going to Frankfurt once on vacation and one of my friends was so shook at the thought that I liked a Shania Twain song :toofunny:

A shame though because I think music reviewers should really be open to other genres and whatnot. A sad review. 

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3 minutes ago, jujubae said:

I'm literally a Southerner. In the South of America. The Bible Belt. I go to country bars all the time, while wearing makeup and heels. I've never been beaten up, I'm ethnic and I'm the furthest thing from straight.

This is a literally clueless assessment with no context of what living in the South really is like. Trust a foreigner to think they know about this life and completely miss a point. This is messy and they should delete tbh. It's an insult to the South, Gaga, and all of her fans.

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Got it completely backwards, her goal was actually to bring both groups together at these places, as she said, theres no reason why pop fans, country fans, rock fans, etc, cant get along and come together for the music

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