BlaqJezus 1,027 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fay said: Yes I am not from the United States but does this mean I should shut up everyone on this site that speak against Palestinians or my country Saudi Arabia? No, everyone has the right to give their opinion and if I disagree with them, I educate them and they still have a chance to debunk what I said.. this is how conversations go. Just because someone is American doesnt mean they know more about their country than a foreign person and some can know more about my country than me as I can also be biased with my country for example. GGD is full with opinions of the Middle East and Muslims yet I never shut anyone up based on their nationality. but if you want to use that argument, ive been to the US and went to BLM marches and seen them in college campuses and what they do and how they treat black people that dont support them. I did not tell black people how they should feel or what their experience is, I am simply judging the actions of a political movement that does not represent black people regardless if they are being oppressed or not. I also never used the All Lives Matter as I understand where the Black Lives Matter saying comes from and I support it. I did not use these words like mentally ill in this topic, I used it against someone that accused me of supporting a rapist and told me to kill myself for no reason so no need to bring that up here. I never watch TV or read the media, I get my sources from individuals with different opinions that explain what the media is saying and its lies. Hey, I am not fighting with you, I am just giving you an idea of what it sounds like when you talk about these issues. If you have seen these protests, and experienced them firsthand, then by all means, please state that, and give us an idea of what you believe of them. Just coming in and saying the things you said gives us no idea about where those ideas you had come from, and context really helps everyone get on the same page. To be fair to myself, I stated intelligent members of the board, and that isn't necessarily the same types you are talking about. If someone came in here shouting about Saudi Arabia or the Middle East, I would tell them the same thing I told you. Give us some context on where you got your ideas, and start a real discussion instead of just throwing out statements without stating why you chose them, that is all I would say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJackMonster 1,857 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Haven't heard her support LGBT in a while.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Mercer said: Haven't heard her support LGBT in a while.. Really? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, Himeros26 said: All these All Lives Matter ass replies. It's just about Black Lives Matter and Trayvon. Stop making it about yourselves. This was written last year, please stop continuing the whitewashing of taking things meant for African Americans and trying to make it fit you. what's aggravating is you don't see them #ALM people when a black person gets treated unfairly by the system, they pop out of their holes to spoil the movement and distract the message. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mercer said: Haven't heard her support LGBT in a while.. She has done more than enough for the LGBT, not everything should be written about you, there's more other issues in the world. Get over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, BlaqJezus said: Hey, I am not fighting with you, I am just giving you an idea of what it sounds like when you talk about these issues. If you have seen these protests, and experienced them firsthand, then by all means, please state that, and give us an idea of what you believe of them. Just coming in and saying the things you said gives us no idea about where those ideas you had come from, and context really helps everyone get on the same page. To be fair to myself, I stated intelligent members of the board, and that isn't necessarily the same types you are talking about. If someone came in here shouting about Saudi Arabia or the Middle East, I would tell them the same thing I told you. Give us some context on where you got your ideas, and start a real discussion instead of just throwing out statements without stating why you chose them, that is all I would say. I never said you were fighting with me, your comment was very respectful and I think I was respectful to you too, I just simply did not agree with what you said. All I said is why is she doing a song for BLM and people started attacking me and when people do that, I do not explain or defend myself and ill call them out on their behavior instead. Not to mention, you dont need to know my history for my comment to be valid. Arguments progress when the other person is open to your idea and asks about where im coming from as I wont write an essay about BLM without people asking for it. People can say they are against Saudi Arabia I have no problem with that at all. If you want example of why I dislike BLM is because of how they treated Bernie Sanders and his supporters just because they are white and accused everyone there for being racist if they dont get what they want and they got what they want.. these were no random members, they were one of the founders of the movement and everyone justified their actions at that time. They even stopped a Gay Pride saying they are more oppressed than gay people and they got their money at the end of the parade! Another reason is how they act in collage campuses attacking everyone and easily use the word racist on everyone. They also care about none issues like cultural appropriation and other things that dont make sense like changing the meaning of what racism is and label it as something you cant change or fix so they can attack and shut you up no matter what. They burn and destroy their own towns and businesses. I can go on with more stuff but I think this is enough.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 57 minutes ago, Zaza said: That's why there's two versions. work tape and master with more lyrics. who knows? Both have the same lyrics. It was all written before Pulse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Assarrai said: what's aggravating is you don't see them #ALM people when a black person gets treated unfairly by the system, they pop out of their holes to spoil the movement and distract the message. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaza 873 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 spread love and peace with every intention. Cherish everything u have. Be Yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Fay said: Sorry that was a mistake, I meant to reply to @Sylvanas who still did not answer me There is no philosophical or moral argument that says you can use these words against anyone.. these subjects are subjective matters. Using force against someone and not respecting their individual right is what is immoral. Yes there is. Just because you are too stubborn to understand how using a illness to insult someone is morally incorrect it doesn't mean it isn't offensive. You are a hot ass mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erlenmeyer 443 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Ok but. When and where is this performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, DrewStevens said: Yes there is. Just because you are too stubborn to understand how using a illness to insult someone is morally incorrect it doesn't mean it isn't offensive. You are a hot ass mess. Being offended is a subjective.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doppelganger 3,933 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 A kid was murdered (not the first time and wont be the last). She feels and wrote a song about it. The message in Art doesn't have to be about politics. So please guys stop the bickering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCAR 97 1,038 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Im confused, isn't the next dive bar performance tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, doppelganger said: A kid was murdered (not the first time and wont be the last). She feels and wrote a song about it. The message in Art doesn't have to be about politics. So please guys stop the bickering. Looking at it from that perspective is the main issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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