President Trump 3,508 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: Trump was better, but that isn't saying much at all really!!! This debate so OBVIOUSLY goes to Queen Hillary!!! How was he better? He wasn't very strong tonight I thought lolol Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Adakam said: Another great performance by Hillary Another kid without a lollipop performance by trump Poor performance by Mrs. Clinton. Phenomenal performance by Mr. Trump. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa said: How was he better? Cuz for the first half hour he was actually stable! Lmao Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, keyblade0 said: So you are just going to ignore the fact that Clinton's own people admit to inciting riots and rigging elections for 50 years? They went so far as to use mentally ill people and physically disabled so they could be portrayed as victims after they incited violence. This is entirely maniacal. Talk about implicit bias. Nope. I'm just stating what also happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: Cuz for the first half hour he was actually stable! Lmao nothing he said made any sense though. no answers. said hillary wants open borders, then immediately said she had deported millions of immigrants. then, he said that obamacare sucks, and hillary's e-mails were a disaster. nothing we haven't heard before. all propaganda. nothing new. no plans, just complaints and anger. Hillary responded clearly and concisely, while ignoring as much propaganda as possible without looking like she was trying to dodge the question. HILLARY introduced answers and introduced specifics of obamacare, of the gun regulation, of the immigration policy. trump was laughed at for a great portion of the time. he did not come across as a serious candidate. the last debate he made hillary look weak at points. this time she looked stronger than he did. she talked over him, and the moderator, and ignored them like they weren't there. she was a leader, and she didn't let him speak, and it's about time. Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgusPop 4,162 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I hope my Kids never knows that President Hillary Clinton was called "such a nasty woman" in a presidential debate. Congrats Madam President Hillary Clinton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 nothing he said made any sense though. no answers. said hillary wants open borders, then immediately said she had deported millions of immigrants. then, he said that obamacare sucks, and hillary's e-mails were a disaster. nothing we haven't heard before. all propaganda. nothing new. no plans, just complaints and anger. Hillary responded clearly and concisely, while ignoring as much propaganda as possible without looking like she was trying to dodge the question. HILLARY introduced answers and introduced specifics of obamacare, of the gun regulation, of the immigration policy. trump was laughed at for a great portion of the time. he did not come across as a serious candidate. the last debate he made hillary look weak at points. this time she looked stronger than he did. she talked over him, and the moderator, and ignored them like they weren't there. she was a leader, and she didn't let him speak, and it's about time. While I am very left-winged, Donald Trump, with his many flaws, brought up a very good point tonight when Hillary Clinton called him out for using “Chinese steel” to build is Las Vegas Trump Tower. He essentially stated that if the government has a problem with corporations being “socially irresponsible”, it is up to the government to create and introduce laws and legislations blocking corporations from carrying out such actions. This has been an ongoing debate who University of Chicago Economics Professor Milton Friedman addressed this in his 1970 essay "The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 23 minutes ago, keyblade0 said: Defending yourself against violence isn't advocating violence. Shooting someone who is trying to assault/rape/murder you isn't violent. It's self-preservation. As much as I advocate self-defense, there are many, many, MANY other ways to defend yourself other than shooting someone. Pepper spray. Tasers. Those things you equip on your hands which I am tempted to call claws... Actual claws. Like literally, when you're defending yourself, a gun is the last resort. You're aiming to defend yourself, not to kill another being. not to mention, death for that person could be a godsend depending on where their jailed, and their crime. Arguing that guns should used for self-defense, is kind of like arguing for nukes to end the war. You should go through the entire list before resorting to the last resort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre 10,480 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 "Such a nasty woman". He was doing great, at the end of the night he was Trump being Trump. Queen Hillary won 3/3. ❝Is not blue, not turquoise, not lapis. It's actually cerulean❞. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Seeka said: As much as I advocate self-defense, there are many, many, MANY other ways to defend yourself other than shooting someone. Pepper spray. Tasers. Those things you equip on your hands which I am tempted to call claws... Actual claws. Like literally, when you're defending yourself, a gun is the last resort. You're aiming to defend yourself, not to kill another being. not to mention, death for that person could be a godsend depending on where their jailed, and their crime. Arguing that guns should used for self-defense, is kind of like arguing for nukes to end the war. You should go through the entire list before resorting to the last resort. You seem to have some serious misconceptions about armed self-defence. There is this thing known as "justifiable use of force". Guns are called "deadly force". That means you don't point a gun at someone you are not prepared to kill. If killing them would not be justified, you shouldn't be using a gun in the first place. "Shoot to wound" is nonsense. If you shoot to wound that implies the situation is not serious enough to kill and therefore you should not have used a firearm. The same applies to Freddy Kruger "claws"... and you will look like a maniac to any jury if you decide to wear and use those. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Goosey said: You seem to have some serious misconceptions about armed self-defence. There is this thing known as "justifiable use of force". Guns are called "deadly force". That means you don't point a gun at someone you are not prepared to kill. If killing them would not be justified, you shouldn't be using a gun in the first place. "Shoot to wound" is nonsense. If you shoot to wound that implies the situation is not serious enough to kill and therefore you should not have used a firearm. The same applies to Freddy Kruger "claws"... and you will look like a maniac to any jury if you decide to wear and use those. yes, but is anyone genuinely prepared to kill someone? People who kill others, especially out of military situations, will be particularly effected by killing another in self-defense. So it'd, besides killing someone, would cause extraneous, psychological harm to the person killing another. As much as it can be justified, this person will be effected for the rest of their lives. Even made worse if the perpetrator actively did their crimes before the victim had shot them. Yes, shoot to wound is nonsense, but in the idea you're not thinking clearly enough to think of just wounding someone. I'll admit that, but I'm not giving you the point in that you're right in your way. Haha, you think I ment Freddy kruegar claws? Oh darling, your weapon knowledge is small, but cute. I was talking more along the lines of... Oh i can't remember the names... fisticuffs, I guess, but with small knives attached. That would also be deadly, but unlike a gun, there is a better chance of you know, surviving. However, while I do support self-defense, and self-preservation, killing a person should really be last resort. You do not have to kill a person to survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBDYWM Stan 885 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 53 minutes ago, Goosey said: Poor performance by Mrs. Clinton. Phenomenal performance by Mr. Trump. Is this Satire? LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Seeka said: yes, but is anyone genuinely prepared to kill someone? People who kill others, especially out of military situations, will be particularly effected by killing another in self-defense. So it'd, besides killing someone, would cause extraneous, psychological harm to the person killing another. As much as it can be justified, this person will be effected for the rest of their lives. Even made worse if the perpetrator actively did their crimes before the victim had shot them. Why does that matter? as I said you only justified to shoot if you or someone else is about to be maimed or killed. So, it's PTSD vs death/serious injury. There is not much option. 8 minutes ago, Seeka said: Haha, you think I ment Freddy kruegar claws? Oh darling, your weapon knowledge is small, but cute. I was talking more along the lines of... Oh i can't remember the names... fisticuffs, I guess, but with small knives attached. That would also be deadly, but unlike a gun, there is a better chance of you know, surviving. I don't know what you are describing, but it also sounds relatively ineffective. Knives aren't the best for self-defence because the effects are not always immediate. Thanks to adrenaline many people don't even know they have been stabbed until later. They just think someone punched them. And that's with a proper knife. Knives are, however, useful for other every day tasks, and are convenient to carry. Do you mean some kind of brass knuckles? "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Goosey said: Poor performance by Mrs. Clinton. Phenomenal performance by Mr. Trump. Suuuuure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, keyblade0 said: Defending yourself against violence isn't advocating violence. Shooting someone who is trying to assault/rape/murder you isn't violent. It's self-preservation. Calling these women too ugly to rape/assault isn't a defense. No matter how much you want it to be. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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