AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: The fact that he can do this to the USA and the fact that he got away with invading another country and taking some of there land, proves he is extremely smart and can get away with a lot of things. Under presidents from the 60's-90's, this would have never happened, he knows exactly what he is doing 1- What is he doing to US ? Nothing. You cannot threaten 30 years old man with stealing their candy. Be smart, Putin says stuff to satisfy his undereducated audience in home. The best case scenario for Putin to be able to open up discussion about lifting of sanctions. 2- That land was already populated with Russians, and they went to referendum to join Russia. It is not like Putin invaded some country totally unrelated to Russia like Iraq was to US. 3- You are deluded, you don't know what you're talking about. In 60-90s Russia was US' competition, now Russia tries to push US to lift economic sanctions. US would never be able to economically isolate Russia in 60s etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Just now, AlphaMonster said: 1- What is he doing to US ? Nothing. You cannot threaten 30 years old man with stealing their candy. Be smart, Putin says stuff to satisfy his undereducated audience in home. The best case scenario for Putin to be able to open up discussion about lifting of sanctions. 2- That land was already populated with Russians, and they went to referendum to join Russia. It is not like Putin invaded some country totally unrelated to Russia like Iraq was to US. 3- You are deluded, you don't know what you're talking about. In 60-90s Russia was US' competition, now Russia tries to push US to lift economic sanctions. US would never be able to economically isolate Russia in 60s etc. A threat that Putin will make 17000 nuclear weapons is very serious and can start another world war, if the US doesn't get rid of sanctions. I don't know what our country will do, but they have to make a smart decision. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estxkid 872 Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: The fact that he can do this to the USA and the fact that he got away with invading another country and taking some of there land, proves he is extremely smart and can get away with a lot of things. Under presidents from the 60's-90's, this would have never happened, he knows exactly what he is doing You clearly don't know history of him becoming that "smart". He started as a Soviet secret agent in Germany, then fled to Saint-Petersburg, was caught doing a lot of illegal stuff, got into KGB, then was put up as a puppet-president, he wasn't experienced in politics. Then Chechnya war happened, I call him a radical-populist. Bomb homes of innocent RUSSIAN people, then blame it on other people, thus gaining points and becoming "powerful and smart" in eyes of patriotic-nationalistic people (87% of russian people are such). Then Georgia, Ukraine. Do I need to go on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Ronald Raegan was a tough man, he made the Middle East lift the gas sanctions form us very quickly, something Jimmy Carter was to scared to do. Putin would fear Raegan because he was one tough man, not one country would threaten or try to screw America. Raegan won 95% of the popular vote and won 48/50 states electorally. It is miserable that your standard for a leader is that 1- He is feared by others 2- He is a tough man 3- Nobody could threaten him News: 1- World is globalized, only "tough" leaders are the ones that are undemocratic. 2- Threats do not matter. North Korea threatens US every single day. Stop with deluded Empire of the Free 'Murica attitude. Rest of the world is not US' vassal states. 3- You might have a president with vagina soon. Get ready for a super untough president. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estxkid 872 Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, AlphaMonster said: 2- That land was already populated with Russians, and they went to referendum to join Russia. It is not like Putin invaded some country totally unrelated to Russia like Iraq was to US. False referendum. They had local elections in Russia two weeks ago, voters presence was even lower, than in Ukrainian times (59% in 2012 to 42% in 2016). Where are those 94% that "came" to the referendum? Just stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Just now, estoniankid said: You clearly don't know history of him becoming that "smart". He started as a Soviet secret agent in Germany, then fled to Saint-Petersburg, was caught doing a lot of illegal stuff, got into KGB, then was put up as a puppet-president, he wasn't experienced in politics. Then Chechnya war happened, I call him a radical-populist. Bomb homes of innocent RUSSIAN people, then blame it on other people, thus gaining points and becoming "powerful and smart" in eyes of patriotic-nationalistic people (87% of russian people are such). Then Georgia, Ukraine. Do I need to go on? After all that, he still won 64% of the popular vote in Russia against 5 other people. The fact that he can convince so many people to vote for him in though he has no experience, again proves he knows exactly what he is doing. You can't be dumb to win over so many people GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Just now, AlphaMonster said: It is miserable that your standard for a leader is that 1- He is feared by others 2- He is a tough man 3- Nobody could threaten him News: 1- World is globalized, only "tough" leaders are the ones that are undemocratic. 2- Threats do not matter. North Korea threatens US every single day. Stop with deluded Empire of the Free 'Murica attitude. Rest of the world is not US' vassal states. 3- You might have a president with vagina soon. Get ready for a super untough president. I am not saying he is a good leader, I live in the USA and it is the best leadership, Democracy. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,582 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 14 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: The fact that he can do this to the USA and the fact that he got away with invading another country and taking some of there land, proves he is extremely smart and can get away with a lot of things. Under presidents from the 60's-90's, this would have never happened, he knows exactly what he is doing It has nothing to do with his astuteness, he is just dangerous, nasty and unreliable as hell. He won't fear war or violance, even if he needs to offer his own people. He has no heart, he has no brains. Talkin' is better than pushing the "nuclear bomb button", right? Obama does a good thing by not overheating the situation not only between the USA and Russia, but also in the rest of the world and especially Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvanas 5,768 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 18 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: I will just say one thing, if Ronald Raegan was president, none of this would have happened Reagan also ignored the AIDs crisis, while upwards of 600,000 gay people died in the streets. Him and Putin would have been good ol' pals! "Who are we, if not slaves to this torment?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,063 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Sure Putin, this is your last resort, I believe? But I don't think this will pull through, start being a diplomatic leader then we'll talk. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estxkid 872 Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: After all that, he still won 64% of the popular vote in Russia against 5 other people. The fact that he can convince so many people to vote for him in though he has no experience, again proves he knows exactly what he is doing. You can't be dumb to win over so many people 5 other people - 4 of them were put up directly by him or his party. This is no convincing, electoral vote in Russia doesn't show anything. Many of Russian people are uneducated, redneck idiots. Yes, I've said it. You just have to experience that in person to know for sure. There are NO choices in Russia besides Putin and his party right now. Recent murder (in 2014) of his biggest opponent (pro-liberal) RIGHT INFRONT of Kremlin shows that CLEARLY. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, estoniankid said: False referendum. They had local elections in Russia two weeks ago, voters presence was even lower, than in Ukrainian times (59% in 2012 to 42% in 2016). Where are those 94% that "came" to the referendum? Just stop. This is a Ukranian state poll from 2011. My point is that Crimea was related to Russia in many ways. It does not matter how legit the referendum was. The point is that Russia did not get away with invading the country X that is not related to Russia like US did with invading Iraq etc. For fück's sake, Russia did not even get away with annexing Crimea; their economy is crippling because of all these sanctions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sylvanas said: Reagan also ignored the AIDs crisis, while upwards of 600,000 gay people died in the streets. Him and Putin would have been good ol' pals! I am not saying all his decisions were the best, but he was hands down one of the best presidents we have ever had. The attitude was happiness and amazing! He won 95% of the popular vote and 48/50 states. Also Gay issues were not something any American was thinking of at the time, just because back then, it was all traditional values GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: I am not saying all his decisions were the best, but he was hands down one of the best presidents we have ever had. The attitude was happiness and amazing! He won 95% of the popular vote and 48/50 states. Also Gay issues were not something any American was thinking of at the time, just because back then, it was all traditional values "The attitude was happiness and amazing"? You've been watching too much Trump, you are adopting his fourth grade level reasoning and language skills. How old are you, because that is straight up BS! The AIDS crises was a very real and immediate concern back in the 80s. You have no idea what you are talking about on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: I will be honest, he is a smart smart leader. He knows exactly what he is doing, he has his people under great control and is playing Obama perfectly. Do you even know what Putin is doing in Russia? Because I don't think you do if you're praising him. It's disgusting. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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