Who won the first debate?

[badgalriri 1,124]

20 minutes ago, Goosey said:

Hi... Hi... *cringes* ... Hillary.

 

 

But only because Trump let her win, says r/The_Donald:

 

"Trump is defending himself this first debate, so when the massive email leak drops he will be able to go fully on the offensive. It's all calculated folks."

 

that makes it sound like trump willbe behind the email leak lol

[badgalriri 1,124]

18 minutes ago, Lion Heart said:

Clinton for sure, but I think she could have done miles better. 

She shouldn't have let Trump scream over her so many times. 

i think she did fine in that aspect. it showed that trump can't control himself. he has zero composure. he had to speak at all times. he was like itching to talk. no matter what she was saying he needed to interrupt. very childish. i think that it showed his true colors

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

Donald lied every 2 seconds, shouted every 2 seconds, and interrupted every 2 seconds!!!  He ****ed his own self up, without her having to do or say much of anything really...  

 

[BlaqJezus 1,027]

11 minutes ago, Goosey said:

It's all calculated folks.

That'd be true if anything that Trump did wasn't last minute drivel from a tweet he sent out, or got the week of the public address. 

[DrewStevens 5,249]

Hillary for sure.

Trump didn't overuse the email thing so I guess he is saving it for later. Although Hillary didn't went all in with him either, she destroyed him only with his own arguments during the debate.

btw... who the hell voted trump in the poll? 

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

17 minutes ago, JbGaga said:

I would honestly say it was a tie. No one lost no one won. I will say tho Trump had so many chances to drag her but didn't take them....

For example: When they where talking about Japan Clinton said something along the lines of " People around the world and countries need to know the usa's word  means something"  

If  I was Trump I would have came back and said: "Well If 70% of americns belive you are untrustworthy and a lier how do you expect the rest of the world to trust you"

Also he could have hit her really hard when she speculated that "Trump might owe people money and be in there pockets" Like really? How did he not bring up Clinton Foundation taking money from over seas entities for Pay for play state department? I was shocked he went so easy on her

 

So I think is she won it was only because Trump lost it for himself. She didn't do anything spectacular. So I say tie

I agree he could have had better "drags"... But he wouldn't even admit to his own faults.

He shouldn't have said "I'll release my tax returns if she releases her emails." It's a completely childish move. He should have just said he would and moved on. He lost the email attack when they were talking about cyber security.

I'd also like to point out that he flat out lied.... Especially about his supposedly not saying that he blamed China for the "hoax" of climate change. He says that he means what he says but there is his tweet about it. And he should have admitted that he did say she didn't look presidential... And flipped it to say that he MEANT to say stamina (which is obviously a complete lie) but he could have easily made it in his favor.

I think he lost after the first 5 minutes. He is way too thin skinned and any attack against his ego is a big deal. He should have let Clinton speak and made his two minute matter rather than flying **** out of his mouth to support his ego.

He talks at such a simple level too WHICH could be a great thing for him since most politicians speak over the American public's heads when they talk about policy. But his answers had zero substance and he was defending himself, his business, and the elite. Ill have to re watch but I barely remember him even addressing the American public. That's what it's about. Not Trump.

I say he had a few good lines but was way too distracted by himself. Clinton was focusing on the public and TRYING to talk about her policy but was rather forced to speak about the drama between them.

Hillary won by a landslide. She was composed, well spoken and trying to contain a man with a big ego.

This was his night and in my opinion blew it more than people are pretending that he did ok. I hear the biggest compliment towards him was not being as "Trump" as he usually is... That's not something to be proud of or lead to a tie.

[ComeToMama 4,351]

Trump did not answer one single question the moderator asked. He rudely and unintelligently rambled about nothing. 

The last hour he was very unpresidential. And well, like, the rest of his campaign as well. 

 

[JbGaga 2,261]

4 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

I agree he could have had better "drags"... But he wouldn't even admit to his own faults.

He shouldn't have said "I'll release my tax returns if she releases her emails." It's a completely childish move. He should have just said he would and moved on. He lost the email attack when they were talking about cyber security.

I'd also like to point out that he flat out lied.... Especially about his supposedly not saying that he blamed China for the "hoax" of climate change. He says that he means what he says but there is his tweet about it. And he should have admitted that he did say she didn't look presidential... And flipped it to say that he MEANT to say stamina (which is obviously a complete lie) but he could have easily made it in his favor.

I think he lost after the first 5 minutes. He is way too thin skinned and any attack against his ego is a big deal. He should have let Clinton speak and made his two minute matter rather than flying **** out of his mouth to support his ego.

He talks at such a simple level too WHICH could be a great thing for him since most politicians speak over the American public's heads when they talk about policy. But his answers had zero substance and he was defending himself, his business, and the elite. Ill have to re watch but I barely remember him even addressing the American public. That's what it's about. Not Trump.

I say he had a few good lines but was way too distracted by himself. Clinton was focusing on the public and TRYING to talk about her policy but was rather forced to speak about the drama between them.

Hillary won by a landslide. She was composed, well spoken and trying to contain a man with a big ego.

This was his night and in my opinion blew it more than people are pretending that he did ok. I hear the biggest compliment towards him was not being as "Trump" as he usually is... That's not something to be proud of or lead to a tie.

I heard he did great the first 20min.... I got there half way through

 

Hillary deflected as much as him. The whole birther issue she delfected and I didn't hear one real solution from her either. Honestly they are both so bad that I just want one of them to Tell the truth on the other. And I feel like Hillary's self righteous entitlement to president really turns me off.

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

6 minutes ago, JbGaga said:

I heard he did great the first 20min.... I got there half way through

 

Hillary deflected as much as him. The whole birther issue she delfected and I didn't hear one real solution from her either. Honestly they are both so bad that I just want one of them to Tell the truth on the other. And I feel like Hillary's self righteous entitlement to president really turns me off.

I really don't see it. Hillary spoke her plan but wasn't able to go in depth because all you could hear from Donald was "wrong."

You have to admit he was rude to the moderator and Hillary. I mean you can back fire in a polite way.... This "I'm going against the norm of the POLITICIAN" is just a bunch of bullshit so he can make it seem like he is a rebel with a cause. 

I mean he supports "stop and frisk" when it was deemed unconstitutional. When the moderator said that and Donald's only response was "wrong." Kinda scary.

It was an embarrassment to the art of debate on his part.

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

4 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

I really don't see it. Hillary spoke her plan but wasn't able to go in depth because all you could hear from Donald was "wrong."

You have to admit he was rude to the moderator and Hillary. I mean you can back fire in a polite way.... This "I'm going against the norm of the POLITICIAN" is just a bunch of bullshit so he can make it seem like he is a rebel with a cause. 

I mean he supports "stop and frisk" when it was deemed unconstitutional. When the moderator said that and Donald's only response was "wrong." Kinda scary.

It was an embarrassment to the art of debate on his part.

THIS ^^

Amen!  ✋

 

[JbGaga 2,261]

Just now, AlexanderLevi2 said:

I really don't see it. Hillary spoke her plan but wasn't able to go in depth because all you could hear from Donald was "wrong."

You have to admit he was rude to the moderator and Hillary. I mean you can back fire in a polite way.... This "I'm going against the norm of the POLITICIAN" is just a bunch of bullshit so he can make it seem like he is a rebel with a cause. 

I mean he supports "stop and frisk" when it was deemed unconstitutional. When the moderator said that and Donald's only response was "wrong." Kinda scary.

It was an embarrassment to art of debate on his part.

I don't think he was rude at all.......

There where a few moments. one in particular was when Trump was talking about meeting the people of this country while prepareing and then implying Hillary has been home prepareing not meeting people/ votes. Then she said something like "I'm trying to be president" And it seemed liked she was saying "I don't care about people I'm doing what I can to be president". It dosent seem like anything in my words but watching it I was so turned off. I just find her incredibly fake

[Goosey 3,017]

5 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

I mean he supports "stop and frisk" when it was deemed unconstitutional. When the moderator said that and Donald's only response was "wrong." Kinda scary.

The Average Joe won't bother to look it up, though. If it "sounds right" they'll just shrug and accept it. Ending with "wrong" is better for Trump than admitting a mistake.

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

Just now, Goosey said:

The Average Joe won't bother to look it up, though. If it "sounds right" they'll just shrug and accept it. Ending with "wrong" is better for Trump than admitting a mistake.

I'm just worried that someone who lied and made up false facts during the debate is being defended... But I can't really say much to change anyone's mind 

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

3 minutes ago, JbGaga said:

I don't think he was rude at all.......

There where a few moments. one in particular was when Trump was talking about meeting the people of this country while prepareing and then implying Hillary has been home prepareing not meeting people/ votes. Then she said something like "I'm trying to be president" And it seemed liked she was saying "I don't care about people I'm doing what I can to be president". It dosent seem like anything in my words but watching it I was so turned off. I just find her incredibly fake

Well he lied and made up false "facts" during his debate. That deems him a loser in my book.

[JbGaga 2,261]

Just now, AlexanderLevi2 said:

Well he lied and made up false "facts" during his debate. That deems him a loser in my book.

They both Did!!! lmao. And actually murders have gone up in NYC he was right about that one