Trump C: "No racism before Obama in Office"

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Just now, Redstreak said:

you say that now with the beauty of hindsight, but 60 years ago you'd repeat similar sentiments. "Oh my ****ing god it's just a bus seat, she's making a joke out of real issues"  

Still your argument is based on assumption which makes it invalid.. many people that time supported her and many like her and an example is bernie sanders so why do you assume that I wont be one of these people? maybe because you know you are a sheep that is only doing good because its the norm.

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4 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Yes they are a joke to me and are mocking real black people issues.. I dont know what me living in America have to do with this but I actually am in America while im writing this to you.

So you don't know sh!t about black history and black life issues AS IT PERTAINS TO AMERICA. So why bother have a conversation?!  Your opinion doesn't matter.

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2 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Still your argument is based on assumption which makes it invalid.. many people that time supported her and many like her and an example is bernie sanders so why do you assume that I wont be one of these people? maybe because you know you are a sheep that is only doing good because its the norm.

I know because I've dealt with people like you. It doesn't matter how someone navigates oppression, you will not be satisfied. You prefer them to shut up. PoC are literally being slaughtered by police forces. Why that's not an issue for you is beyond me.

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does that even make sense

 

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Yikes............ genuinely disheartened to share the world with people like this. 

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A far fetched statement with no proof to back it up. America is a land filled with racism since day one, blaming it on Obama is laughable

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"The best people" 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, kyanewest said:

A far fetched statement with no proof to back it up. America is a land filled with racism since day one, blaming it on Obama is laughable

I applaud for your response

This basically sums it up. It confirms that even people like us have more common sense and intelligence than some Republicans

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I guess slavery didn't exist either and the decades full of segregation were also just an illusion. Some people, I swear.

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16 minutes ago, Gaga of Time said:

So you don't know sh!t about black history and black life issues AS IT PERTAINS TO AMERICA. So why bother have a conversation?!  Your opinion doesn't matter.

Well if you cant have an argument with someone based on their nationality, you have a problem. Arguments dont work this way, they work by two people sharing their opinion and if one is ignorant about something, the other person educates him. Saying that you are ignorant about thi subject so I wont argue with you shows just how week your argument is.. I am telling you educate me if you can but im sure you cant. I know more about American history than Americans themselves but you wouldnt know that because you want to judge me based on my nationality.

16 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Know because I've dealt with people like you. It doesn't matter how someone navigates oppression, you will not be satisfied. You prefer them to shut up. PoC are literally being slaughtered by police forces. Why that's not an issue for you is beyond me.

This is the third time you make an argument based on assumption! you need to stop this or your argument wont go anywhere! Im a Libertarian so ive been against the police and cops and what they do to black people long before any BLM existed and donate money to help them fight against it. But I guess you want to put anyone who disagrees with you into one box and make assumptions against them.

I never said it was not an issue for me, I said people who are fighting for these issues are a problem which does not mean black people, it just means these political groups like black lives matter. For example, im against third wave feminism but that does not mean im against equal rights or do not recognize womens issues today, I just dont agree with feminists approach with dealing with the issue so hating feminism does not equal hating women.

Throughout history, there has been many people who fight oppression who are bad and others who are good, for example, many of the first wave feminists used to put white feathers on men in public to shame them for not going to war to fight for their women and hated men yet there was other feminists who cared about voting and property rights. Same is happening today, many black people are fighting real issues and have been for years until this SJW BLM infected their real real issues and made a joke out of it. 

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3 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Well if you cant have an argument with someone based on their nationality, you have a problem. Arguments dont work this way, they work by two people sharing their opinion and if one is ignorant about something, the other person shows educates him and then the other person will respond. I know more about American history than Americans themselves but you wouldnt know that because you want to judge me based on my nationality.

This is the third time you make an argument based on assumption! you need to stop this or your argument wont go anywhere!

I never said it was not an issue for me, I said people who are fighting for these issues are a problem which does not mean black people, it just means these political groups like black lives matter. For example, im against third wave feminism but that does not mean im against equal rights or do not recognize womens issues today, I just dont agree with feminists approach with dealing with the issue so hating feminism does not equal hating women.

Throughout history, there has been many people who fight oppression who are bad and others who are good, for example, many of the first wave feminists used to put white feathers on men in public to shame them for not going to war to fight for their women and hated men yet there was other feminists who cared about voting and property rights. Same is happening today, many black people are fighting real issues and have been for years until this SJW BLM infected their real real issues and made a joke out of it. Im a Libertarian so ive been against the police and cops and what they do to black people long before any BLM existed.

Alright Jan, since you keep telling me I'm running on assumptions, tell the class how you would lead the fight against the current social issues facing PoC in America.

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3 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Alright Jan, since you keep telling me I'm running on assumptions, tell the class how you would lead the fight against the current social issues facing PoC in America.

I can do that but it will take the whole thing into another subject and argument that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Our argument is not on how I want to lead this problem, its about people who are leading this problem.. if I say I dont like Hilary or Trump, I dont have to tell you how I would lead it instead.

 

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1 minute ago, faysalaaa1 said:

I can do that but it will take the whole thing into another subject and argument that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Our argument is not on how I want to lead this problem, its about people who are leading this problem.. if I say I dont like Hilary or Trump, I dont have to tell you how I would lead it instead.

 

No hunty that is the argument. There hasn't been a single thread where you've agreed with protestors or any of their actions or causes so hence I'm curious as to how you would do it right. If you feel you have a better method, that's an important thing to discuss

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14 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

No hunty that is the argument. There hasn't been a single thread where you've agreed with protestors or any of their actions or causes so hence I'm curious as to how you would do it right. If you feel you have a better method, that's an important thing to discuss

My problem is not with the method, ive always disagreed with the method even before Obama as im a Libertarian and against any government program. My problem is with the ideology and how they act like mentally ill people and get easily triggered and easily use the word racist at everyone to the point where the word lost its importance and real issues are swept under the rug. I dont care what the method is, I care about what your issues and and its their choice to chose what method they want for themselves but I personally prefer the Libertarian method.

You say that ive never agreed with protesters well yeah because all the protests are BLM as they took over the black community and its what the government and media supports. I even like Malcolm X who supported violence to fight for his rights but he had a good ideology and a real issue so I can stand behind him.

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1 hour ago, faysalaaa1 said:

BLM and many others

This woman wasn't just talking about the BLM organization, though. Go back and read the OP. She was saying that racism didn't exist like it does now, in the sixties and decades after that...and that simply isn't true. Racism has always been evident in every decade, every generation. 

Why is it that riots are happening in the past couple of years over police shooting black people? Because they've known this is going on for decades, but now with everyone having the ability to film every encounter and the ability of social media to spread the videos, images and message- you have a medium to show people what POC have known all along. This movement of awareness and questioning police being the judge and jury has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with the general public starting to see the problems that have been there all along. 

Just because racism didn't impact you or this woman (and others that feel the same as her) directly doesn't mean it didn't or doesn't exist. She wants POC to go back in the shadows...to "know their place" like they did when she was younger. She doesn't want to hear from them or have to see the evidence of racism. She wants to live in her white world and not be "bothered" by those who are oppressed and discriminated against.