BricksNStrings 231 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 25 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: 2.She took an already written song ,PI, and split it in many parts and redo it - this is NOT Gaga's stile at all The rest of your post is your opinion, but this part is flat out completely not true. RedOne randomly played the opening synth notes of "Just Dance" for Gaga, and she started riffing over that. "Government Hooker" came from a beat DJ White Shadow had on his computer. "Aura" was an Infected Mushroom track called "Kink" that she just cut up and sang over. There are way more examples than these three, but point is, she has always done this - at least Perfect Illusion was an organic process that was written from the ground up and not vocals pasted over an instrumental (not saying it's bad to do it that way, but it's way different). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Monster Voices said: And have you forgotten how many looks she changes eithin an era?! So far we have only seen the PI look. We literally got the same outfit since she released PI and that was 12 days ago. And before that we got 8 months of YSL basic outfits. And she said in a recent Interview that she didn't feel like dressing up this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool365 347 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 we have literally heard one song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassTheTime 1,448 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Monster Voices said: How can we know if there is a connection between the songs if we have literally heard one And have you forgotten how many looks she changes eithin an era?! So far we have only seen the PI look. And as far as we know PI is the only song she got and then reworked. Dont worry so much! Trust in her! What i mean with connection between songs is that in an concept album you blend the concept with what you wanna express through the song and all songs sonds familiar and you can say "such a nice song about planets and then about constelations" and those things are an item of celestial bodies for example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patella 534 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: 1.No concept for this album => no visual or audio connections amoung songs ("Just a bunch of songs "-LG) Sometimes its better to not have a concept and just write about stuff you need to write about in order to get rid of anguish. I feel like this album will be Gaga "audio" diary. And each song might count as a different day and different emotion. The whole thing that will tie it up is Gaga, herself. 11 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: 2.She took an already written song ,PI, and split it in many parts and redo it - this is NOT Gaga's stile at all Yes its not her style, but if she liked the song and connected with it, why not. Other pop stars dont even do that, they just take a demo and "cover" it. Im looking at you Rihanna. 13 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: 3.No choreography for this album - another spectrum of her creative expression from the past that is missing Maybe other songs will have choreography. But frankly, PI is not a song that needs choreography, it just doesnt fit, at least for me. And when a song doesnt fit choreography, it doesnt mean the song is bad, its just a different genre. Its better that there wasnt a choreo for PI, because if there was if would feel forced, at least thats how I see it. 15 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: 4.No hard artistic outfits with visual,cultural and artistic impact. They were the product of her creativity ,hard work and passion for her art.The outfits helped her art to express more to " get in your face ", to feel her art through more senses (eyes ,ears,body etc) I still think she is doing that, but in a toned down way. I mean her latest outfits totally come in line with PI. The song feels makes you feel trashy and makes you wanna rock out. I dont see people rocking out in meat or with bubble machines. She is expressing it, just the expression is so much more different than her previous eras and looks totally normal. Thats what she was getting on whe she said shes her father daughter, etc. Shes trying to make the fashion minimalistic so that people can focus on her music and the emotions she is trying to convey. I feel like if she could she would just be bare naked and show us that she is baring her soul on this record. Whos to say it wont have a cultural impact? 19 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: 5.Production of this album makes me worried because PI's production is not soo good even with 2 producers involved in the process (both are producers but different genres Mark -rock ,BloodPop-Pop so maybe there were some artistic differences.) The production on PI is very organic, there is as little computer as can be used. Her vocals are raw, instruments are real, someones actually playing the song its not like they came into the studio and layered a few computer sounds on top of each other. Again, its what I guess shes trying to convey, the realness, rawness and "nakedness" of the record. Its very soulfull. 22 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: 6.No more theatrics, again a form of expression. You can still see bits here and there in PI MV, again its just toned down. It doesnt really fit with the musical direction she went with PI in. Maybe itll help her get the GP back on her side, I feel like they were overfed with her theatrics during ARTPOP + the songs went more EDM and the kind of EDM that people didnt really like and that was whole problem of the last era. Maybe this time around people will like that she went raw and as normal as possible (I still see little bits of craziness in PI MV) and basically made a record on which she stripped everything down to the core of her heart and soul and put music first then the theatrics, fashion and other form of expressions. I feel like she is trying something that is new for her and all of us and thats her whole point she changes everything about her self on every record to see how far she can push the limits and see what will she learn and how she will grow as a person and artist. Thats what I fell in love with and why I fell in love with her and her music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Sycamore said: And she said in a recent Interview that she didn't feel like dressing up this time. I have a suspicion that will change when she needs tens of thousands of fans to buy concert tickets to finance her Malibu farmland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Nino said: I have a suspicion that will change when she needs tens of thousands of fans to buy concert tickets to finance her Malibu farmland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,054 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 control freak. thats all that comes to mind when i see you guys complain like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Voices 1,024 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: What i mean with connection between songs is that in an concept album you blend the concept with what you wanna express through the song and all songs sonds familiar and you can say "such a nice song about planets and then about constelations" and those things are an item of celestial bodies for example Yeah I got that but as I said we don't know yet. Maybe it is like this. Cant be sire. Forever and Always! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 You expressed yourself very nicely. I see what youre saying. has changed everything completely. I remember a Monstervision where gaga is in a tub using her fame soap, and shes talking about how she had to change all her rules of fame? she talks about changing everything. and then we started getting stefani little by little. started with the dying of the blonde hair. but in a way, I believe that she is more mysterious and intriguing than ever! lol. Im like wow this woman is undefinable. I cant wait for whats next! lolol.She could change her mind and view in four months and be heading a new direction. I let her be. lol i know she does a great job always because she portrays her emotions well, and shes forcing us to hear the messages and the voice. Shes Such a drama queen I LOVE IT. she shows she can be any genre. POP, DISCO, COUNTRY, HIP HOP, JAZZ, ROCK N ROLL, "INDIE", BALLADQUEEN, EDM, HEAVY METAL, ANYTHINGUH. lolol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassTheTime 1,448 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, BricksNStrings said: The rest of your post is your opinion, but this part is flat out completely not true. RedOne randomly played the opening synth notes of "Just Dance" for Gaga, and she started riffing over that. "Government Hooker" came from a beat DJ White Shadow had on his computer. "Aura" was an Infected Mushroom track called "Kink" that she just cut up and sang over. There are way more examples than these three, but point is, she has always done this - at least Perfect Illusion was an organic process that was written from the ground up and not vocals pasted over an instrumental (not saying it's bad to do it that way, but it's way different). \you have to take your "muse" from somewhere it's not like they give her the concept of the song even the title (perfect illusion) and came even with the lyrics and she just remastered them with "I work on a typewriter and we would bounce lyrics back and forth." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, Nino said: I have a suspicion that will change when she needs tens of thousands of fans to buy concert tickets to finance her Malibu farmland LOL !gaga is brilliant tho Her family makes dough. Her parents have investments im sure, Im sure she has investments everywhere, Let alone her other colllabs. You dont have that much money that long without have multiple sources of income lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hey arent the crop tops so small that her breasts were visible all the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BricksNStrings 231 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: \you have to take your "muse" from somewhere it's not like they give her the concept of the song even the title (perfect illusion) and came even with the lyrics and she just remastered them with "I work on a typewriter and we would bounce lyrics back and forth." So you're telling me Gaga taking the concept "Illusion" from Kevin Parker and working with some of the world's most renowned producers and songwriters to build the song from the ground up, contributing her own lyrics and melodies along the way and being the primary creative force, is her "splitting an already written song" (Perfect Illusion), but her taking an instrumental and using nearly the entire thing but just singing over it is just Gaga taking her "muse" from somewhere (Aura)? Is that really what you're saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, BricksNStrings said: So you're telling me Gaga taking the concept "Illusion" from Kevin Parker and working with some of the world's most renowned producers and songwriters to build the song from the ground up, contributing her own lyrics and melodies along the way and being the primary creative force, is her "splitting an already written song" (Perfect Illusion), but her taking an instrumental and using nearly the entire thing but just singing over it is just Gaga taking her "muse" from somewhere (Aura)? Is that really what you're saying? oh and government hooker.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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