Delulu Rogers 7,235 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If this is what her label thought was the best song on the album to pick as a lead and get the hyped started then i pray for the album. Mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Gangie said: Of course she needs to promote the record and I have a feeling that this time she'll give us the best she can by showing her real voice, I mean, the songs will show us her real vocal abilities without any corrections. I'm so excited! I don't want another Judas performance mess when she couldn't handle that. But do we really deserve that? ARTPOP and PI has shown that most of 'LM' don't care about her artistic vision, they only care about sales... I don't remember any big meltdowns when ARTPOP came out because everybody was saying that it was great album... the mess started after its underperformance. I want to say that we should focus on the good music, I think that it's all what Gaga wants from us atm. I totally agree but there are some fans out there who actually like the song without giving a damn about how it's doing commercially. I personally view songs that way, I don't care if it's a lead single or not, as long as it's a great song I'm gonna cherish it as much as I cherish the lead single. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 15 hours ago, Boyboi12 said: That's interesting! Record labels normally put the best work forward. I am truly worried about this record. Not necessarily true at all. And some of the best songs on any of Gaga's albums are far from the most commercial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: Not necessarily true at all. And some of the best songs on any of Gaga's albums are far from the most commercial. 👀 how sure are you of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just now, Boyboi12 said: 👀 how sure are you of that? 99.9% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 minute ago, djBuffoon said: 99.9% You're going to make me break down album by album, just to prove a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P 2,336 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 None of her lead singles are the best songs from the album, except BR Do you hear that? It's poison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 19 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: Not necessarily true at all. And some of the best songs on any of Gaga's albums are far from the most commercial. Your statement only applys to born this way and maybe art pop. The fame best songs were the hits! Just dance, love game, paparazzi poker face etc.... and the fame monster best songs were also the hits bad romance,  Alejandro, telephone!  Besides those meantioned, speechless is the second best song on that album. So I can't fully agree with your argument, because it's honestly! Truly half true... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Boyboi12 said: Your statement only applys to born this way and maybe art pop. The fame best songs were the hits! Just dance, love game, paparazzi poker face etc.... and the fame monster best songs were also the hits bad romance,  Alejandro, telephone!  Besides those meantion, speechless is the second best song on that album. So I can't fully agree with your argument, because it's honestly! Truly half true... Fair enough. As her sounds became more daring (by pop standards), the singles became a bit more dubious in quality compared to the albums as a whole. I'll argue that "Just Dance", "Poker Face", and "Telephone" are not the best songs on their respective albums, but yes, with BTW and AP, there were some superior tracks that would not have made sense on the radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, djBuffoon said: Fair enough. As her sounds became more daring (by pop standards), the singles became a bit more dubious in quality compared to the albums as a whole. I'll argue that "Just Dance", "Poker Face", and "Telephone" are not the best songs on their respective albums, but yes, with BTW and AP, there were some superior tracks that would not have made sense on the radio. They're apart of the hit collection, and are better then the songs not released as hits.  Born this way is honestly, truly the only record your statement applys to because overall art pop was a horrible record. The songs were over produced and not as catchy as previous releases material. Sometimes I wonder if she had a lot of help writing those songs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Boyboi12 said: They're apart of the hit collection, and are better then the songs not released as hits.  Born this way is honestly, truly the only record your statement applys to because overall art pop was a horrible record. The songs were over produced and not as catchy as previous releases material. Sometimes I wonder if she had a lot of help writing those songs. Honestly, truly I have to disagree with you there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just now, djBuffoon said: Honestly, truly I have to disagree with you there.  I love you! Don't go off on me because I'm a  Gemini, but I love art pop to death! Venus, guy,  MANiCURE, sex dream, swine, do what you want e.c.t. But that album is all over the place, but as a Stan I love it. But as a musician who plays and write music it needed a better focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Boyboi12 said:  I love you! Don't go off on me because I'm a  Gemini, but I love art pop to death! Venus, guy,  MANiCURE, sex dream, swine, do what you want e.c.t. But that album is all over the place, but as a Stan I love it. But as a musician who plays and write music it needed a better focus. Musician here as well, I think ARTPOP has some of her finest melodies and most intricate production. I do wish "Swine" was closer in arrangement to the iTunes Fest version, and perhaps a bit more clarity in the overall theme, but I find it much more cohesive and impressive than given credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just now, djBuffoon said: Musician here as well, I think ARTPOP has some of her finest melodies and most intricate production. I do wish "Swine" was closer in arrangement to the iTunes Fest version, and perhaps a bit more clarity in the overall theme, but I find it much more cohesive and impressive than given credit for. She will not receive as much credit because it doesn't stack up to her first three albums. which are some of the greatest pop records of all time,  especially in this millennium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just now, Boyboi12 said: She will not receive as much credit because it doesn't stack up to her first three albums. which are some of the greatest pop records of all time,  especially in this millennium We'll have to agree to disagree.  I would place it only behind Born This Way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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