arthurhmangum 4,408 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Music not the charts. Stressed, depressed, but well dressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, Weasel said: I never said they couldn't be happy. It just shows that they do care. It is no coincidence Bobby clocked the #1 in a matter of hours and Gaga knowing it topped the charts in over 60 countries shows that they both are perched and tracking its success (or floppage atm) as much as we do. It might not be their ultimate goal (even though Bobby's pay check is likely influenced by Gaga's sales) but they definitely care. I did not say that they don't care. Just that is not the aim. I mean can you seriously tell me that PI was trying to follow the trends? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,598 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Monsters that think Gaga is above charts, sit down Team Gaga, regardless of what she may or may not say in her interviews, are most definitely keeping an eye on her charting, don't think otherwise. As long as Gaga is signed to a major commercial label, as long as Gaga is using the hype of a TV Show to debut her video, as long as her management are striking radio deals and as long as Gaga is performing at high profile TV shows, you can bet your life that her music is intended for charts. "Music not the bling" and "I don't write for the charts" may sound good in Gaga's world. But in interscope's world, there's a whole other kettle of fish. You really think that her label would allow her to virtually disappear off the pop scape for 3 years, fresh off the back of an underperforming era, and allow her to return with music that she doesn't want to chart and doesn't intend a profit to be made off? Bull****, I've seen a lot of people around here saying "I don't stan radio puppets", well huntea, for as long as her management are paying radio to play her **** on hourly rotation, then yes you are. Its different to say that you don't stan an artist who doesn't create authentic music (something that Gaga most def does do). But to think that Gaga is somehow above commerciality while being signed to one of the biggest labels in the industry? Sit. Allow me to quote the post of a wise GGD member (@Economy) "I get ma when at least 1/3 of this fan base judges those of us who care about charts. Its like they dont realize a lot of stuff does matter with chart performance. Labels wont promote an artist at a loss. If they cant make the money back, promo budgets and even production budgets (like music videos) can get slashed. Just sayin. If era after era she started doing poorly. Her label would give up on her and she wouldnt be one of their priorities anymore. They would promote her wnough to go on tour (she she would still make some good money) and thats about it. Think about past legends. When they started to flop, their whole production size shrunk with it" Feel free to state that you, as an individual person, do not care for chartings or the commercial side of her music, but don't say her music is not made for charts. Because it is, and if this era bombs, then interscope will most definitely put their foot down and demand a commercial pop album for immediate release, and if Gaga doesn't agree to that, then the label will either drop her (most unlikely) or slash her budget immensely to the point where appearances and large promotional events (ie. award shows, talent show performances, late night interviews) will be a thing of the past. Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeynuraf 191 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Remember all she has is 3 #1 hits. She has to step it up in this era. It does matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeynuraf 191 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Unless she becomes an indie artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
connorfilm 7,295 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 minute ago, xeynuraf said: Remember all she has is 3 #1 hits. She has to step it up in this era. It does matter. That's still so crazy to believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Stef said: Monsters that think Gaga is above charts, sit down Team Gaga, regardless of what she may or may not say in her interviews, are most definitely keeping an eye on her charting, don't think otherwise. As long as Gaga is signed to a major commercial label, as long as Gaga is using the hype of a TV Show to debut her video, as long as her management are striking radio deals and as long as Gaga is performing at high profile TV shows, you can bet your life that her music is intended for charts. "Music not the bling" and "I don't write for the charts" may sound good in Gaga's world. But in interscope's world, there's a whole other kettle of fish. You really think that her label would allow her to virtually disappear off the pop scape for 3 years, fresh off the back of an underperforming era, and allow her to return with music that she doesn't want to chart and doesn't intend a profit to be made off? Bull****, I've seen a lot of people around here saying "I don't stan radio puppets", well huntea, for as long as her management are paying radio to play her **** on hourly rotation, then yes you are. Its different to say that you don't stan an artist who doesn't create authentic music (something that Gaga most def does do). But to think that Gaga is somehow above commerciality while being signed to one of the biggest labels in the industry? Sit. Allow me to quote the post of a wise GGD member (@Economy) "I get ma when at least 1/3 of this fan base judges those of us who care about charts. Its like they dont realize a lot of stuff does matter with chart performance. Labels wont promote an artist at a loss. If they cant make the money back, promo budgets and even production budgets (like music videos) can get slashed. Just sayin. If era after era she started doing poorly. Her label would give up on her and she wouldnt be one of their priorities anymore. They would promote her wnough to go on tour (she she would still make some good money) and thats about it. Think about past legends. When they started to flop, their whole production size shrunk with it" Feel free to state that you, as an individual person, do not care for chartings or the commercial side of her music, but don't say her music is not made for charts. Because it is, and if this era bombs, then interscope will most definitely put their foot down and demand a commercial pop album for immediate release, and if Gaga doesn't agree to that, then the label will either drop her (most unlikely) or slash her budget immensely to the point where appearances and large promotional events (ie. award shows, talent show performances, late night interviews) will be a thing of the past. Once again you seemed confused like many others here. Gaga is only making music because she likes music and because she wants to be creative and explore her ideas. The main goal is not to design hits but to simply create music that she likes. This does not meant that she does not care about the charts. She does because she wants her music to be successful and because, like you said, her label demands it. If she really wanted hits she would go for the trendy sounds like Taylor, Katy, Rihanna, and all other popstars do. PI is unlike anything that is being played on the radio and the album sounds like it won't be radio friendly either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBatman 951 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, xeynuraf said: Unless she becomes an indie artist. Which she totally could, and she could probably sustain a long and successful career like a Tori Amos or something. But you're right, she has had three number one hits, that's it. You can be sure the same girl who has been trying to position herself in the realm of Madonna MJ Bowie, etc, cares more about the charts than any of us. She wants hits, huge global hits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeynuraf 191 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yeah. Calling her a living legend with 3 hits is no going to cut it. Sadly, some monsters celebrate the flops from people who have like 10 or more #1 hits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, xeynuraf said: Unless she becomes an indie artist. 9 minutes ago, xeynuraf said: Remember all she has is 3 #1 hits. She has to step it up in this era. It does matter. And yet she is one of the best selling artist of all time and has more impact than others that have more hits than her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yeah, she doesn't want hits. She just did private concerts for popular radio stations and released a radio friendly song because it was good for her health. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwontell 7,312 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I don't know about the album, but PI was definitely made for the charts (despite of it's performance so far)... ATTENTION: (bad) jokes and sarcasm are still a thing, so don't take everything I say literally. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, TheBatman said: Which she totally could, and she could probably sustain a long and successful career like a Tori Amos or something. But you're right, she has had three number one hits, that's it. You can be sure the same girl who has been trying to position herself in the realm of Madonna MJ Bowie, etc, cares more about the charts than any of us. She wants hits, huge global hits. Where did you get that she was trying to position herself as the next Madonna or MJ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,598 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Enigma said: Once again you seemed confused like many others here. Gaga is only making music because she likes music and because she wants to be creative and explore her ideas. The main goal is not to design hits for to simply create music that she likes. This does not meant that she does not care about the charts. She does because she wants her music to be successful and because, like you said, her label demands it. If she really wanted hits she would go for the trendy sounds like Taylor, Katy, Rihanna, and all other popstars do. PI is unlike anything that is being played on the radio and the album sounds like it won't be radio friendly either. I agree, and I touched on all of those elements in the first three paragraphs. My post was referencing those who say that Gaga is above charts, or above commerical success, when she very clearly is not, nor will she be for as long as she is signed to a label of this caliber. Once Gaga leaves interscope and goes independent, then and only then, will I believe that her music isn't, (to some extent) intended for commercial success. PI may have started out even moreso different and "experimental" compared to the final product, (I do remember someone with connections to Gaga's team saying that she shut off the label for the creation of the album and allowed them to have input once she had rough cuts of all songs) who knows what goes on behind closed doors, but interscope most definitely isn't going to sit back and watch someone who should be their most profitable artist, tank in sales. Something will be done, whether it is against the wishes of Gaga or not. Gaga likes to rebel against the label but at the end of the day they give the final word, unfortunately. Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReidOne 12,427 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, Stef said: Monsters that think Gaga is above charts, sit down Team Gaga, regardless of what she may or may not say in her interviews, are most definitely keeping an eye on her charting, don't think otherwise. As long as Gaga is signed to a major commercial label, as long as Gaga is using the hype of a TV Show to debut her video, as long as her management are striking radio deals and as long as Gaga is performing at high profile TV shows, you can bet your life that her music is intended for charts. "Music not the bling" and "I don't write for the charts" may sound good in Gaga's world. But in interscope's world, there's a whole other kettle of fish. You really think that her label would allow her to virtually disappear off the pop scape for 3 years, fresh off the back of an underperforming era, and allow her to return with music that she doesn't want to chart and doesn't intend a profit to be made off? Bull****, I've seen a lot of people around here saying "I don't stan radio puppets", well huntea, for as long as her management are paying radio to play her **** on hourly rotation, then yes you are. Its different to say that you don't stan an artist who doesn't create authentic music (something that Gaga most def does do). But to think that Gaga is somehow above commerciality while being signed to one of the biggest labels in the industry? Sit. Allow me to quote the post of a wise GGD member (@Economy) "I get ma when at least 1/3 of this fan base judges those of us who care about charts. Its like they dont realize a lot of stuff does matter with chart performance. Labels wont promote an artist at a loss. If they cant make the money back, promo budgets and even production budgets (like music videos) can get slashed. Just sayin. If era after era she started doing poorly. Her label would give up on her and she wouldnt be one of their priorities anymore. They would promote her wnough to go on tour (she she would still make some good money) and thats about it. Think about past legends. When they started to flop, their whole production size shrunk with it" Feel free to state that you, as an individual person, do not care for chartings or the commercial side of her music, but don't say her music is not made for charts. Because it is, and if this era bombs, then interscope will most definitely put their foot down and demand a commercial pop album for immediate release, and if Gaga doesn't agree to that, then the label will either drop her (most unlikely) or slash her budget immensely to the point where appearances and large promotional events (ie. award shows, talent show performances, late night interviews) will be a thing of the past. There is so much truth here. Thank you! She had a "world premiere" exclusive deal with iHeartRadio, the largest radio conglomerate in the US. She's done nearly 20 radio interviews in the last week. Does this look like someone who "doesn't care" about charts/sales/airplay? I don't think so. She clearly cares. A LOT. September 09 - Lady Gaga Co-hosts Radio BBC 1 09 - Lady Gaga interviewed on KISS FM UK 09 - Lady Gaga interviewed on Capital FM 09 - Lady Gaga interviewed on Heat Radio 1X - Date to be Confirmed - Lady Gaga on Kyle & Jackie O Show 12 - Lady Gaga on Elvis Duran Show 12 - Lady Gaga on Andy Cohen Live 12 - Lady Gaga on 106.1 BLI 12 - Lady Gaga on Big Top 40 12 - Lady Gaga on 92.3 AMP Radio 13 - Lady Gaga interviewed on 102.7FM 13 - Lady Gaga on Sway's Universe 13 - Lady Gaga live on Facebook 13 - Lady Gaga on SiriusXM Morning Mashup 14 - Lady Gaga on Z100 15 - Lady Gaga on Zane Lowe's Beats 1 radio show 16 - Lady Gaga interviewed on LoMas40 (PS please don't take this as an attack @Enigma, love you sis! Just sharing an opinion I've been withholding for a while now) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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