Desperado 2,439 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 They need to **** off the industry already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit 15,807 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 12 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said: 3. Your comment about schools in the US teaching shoe lace colors to its students is pretty far fetched. Maybe you can find a curriculum somewhere to prove your point. It sure wasn't taught in my school. Like, what grade did they teach that bullshit in? Learning about mathematical skill and safe sex. When the **** do you schedule a shoe lace class? Don't even bother with him. He lives up to his username. “For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity.” ― Jean Dubuffet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stircrazy 86 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I hate their attitude. Hopefully they smarten up before people realize and stop buying their music, which isn't even good to begin with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,861 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 51 minutes ago, DominicB said: Like, what grade did they teach that bullshit in? Learning about mathematical skill and safe sex. When the **** do you schedule a shoe lace class? Just had to say that I found your comment very funny! I want to know what class you even learn that stuff in! If there is somewhere that teaches this, I have to say...only in America. I'm pretty sure other countries have much more important issues to teach their youth than what shoelace colours mean in certain cultures and movements. It only seems to be Western countries that seem bothered with teaching nonsense like this. Like I was saying earlier, why is it that white Westerners are expected to know the meaning of everything in every culture and know the symbolism behind everything to make sure that they aren't disrespecting anyone? Yet every other race and culture on the planet is not expected to do the same? Yet whites get called uncultured, ignorant cretins for not researching each and every little thing? Double standards, much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit 15,807 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Just had to say that I found your comment very funny! I want to know what class you even learn that stuff in! If there is somewhere that teaches this, I have to say...only in America. I'm pretty sure other countries have much more important issues to teach their youth than what shoelace colours mean in certain cultures and movements. It only seems to be Western countries that seem bothered with teaching nonsense like this. Like I was saying earlier, why is it that white Westerners are expected to know the meaning of everything in every culture and know the symbolism behind everything to make sure that they aren't disrespecting anyone? Yet every other race and culture on the planet is not expected to do the same? Yet whites get called uncultured, ignorant cretins for not researching each and every little thing? Double standards, much? The way priorities are set up. It's not even nowadays, it's been pretty dysfunctional from the start. Everyone's got sticks up their ass about these sorts of things. Things don't mean the same thing, as it did decades ago. “For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity.” ― Jean Dubuffet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,861 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 32 minutes ago, DominicB said: The way priorities are set up. It's not even nowadays, it's been pretty dysfunctional from the start. Everyone's got sticks up their ass about these sorts of things. Things don't mean the same thing, as it did decades ago. When the Commonwealth Games got held in my country, you know how every country's paraded around the stadium with a guide holding an emblem of the country? Because it was Scotland, the leaders paraded everyone out accompanied with a Scottie dog. It was only after the ceremony that some Malaysians kicked up a fuss because in their culture, they view dogs as vermin, so they considered it disrespectful that we made them walk out with a dog. It's like, do they expect the organisers to know the cultural sensitivities of all 71 competing nations? There were also double decker buses, singers and fireworks at the ceremony - did they have to research that they weren't offensive to anyone too? I mean seriously, do they have to search "_____ offensive in ____ culture" in a search engine 71 times over for every little thing that the ceremony involved? I'm sure no other country would be expected to give 2 hoots what anything meant to other cultures if it were them hosting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 A woman who works in the music industry wrote Billboard a letter, I didn't know if anyone else had seen this here: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 4 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: Didn't read the original interview, but wow, that is some embarrassing reading. I really hate when some guys get into the music industry purely for the female attention. And male artists hate guys like this even more. Don't get into this business if that's all you're interested in. It's hard enough to get anywhere in it, if you're not here for the love of music, get the f**k out and leave the charts to the real artists. The sad thing is, there are women out there who would happily sleep with anyone just because they're famous and don't care if they're d-bags or not. So, that only allows this culture to continue. And the fact they said this despite having serious girlfriends is absolutely disgusting. But if there's one upside to it all it's that the world isn't giving them a free pass because they're men. I really hate how men have been allowed to say sexist, explicit stuff for years and they get away with it and are even glorified but if a woman does anything remotely similar, she's demonised. At least we're starting to have equal standards now. It's only by having equal standards that men will eventually start to realise that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable. I had literally no idea about this. I associate these kind of shoes and laces with alternative/goth communities and Ronald McDonald, if anything. To think that everyone knows about the meaning behind this is ridiculous. I think the lack of people talking about it informs you of that. Let me get this straight...should everyone mentally assess every single clothing choice they make in case there's something about it that potentially offends someone of another culture or anyone who is 'in the know' about a deeper symbolism? Sorry, no, we have no responsibility for that. Plus, why does it only seem to be white people's choices that are ever deemed offensive? Can no one from any other race or culture ever say or do something that whites find offensive? Why is it whites are supposed to know the meaning behind everything in every culture but no other culture is required to do the same in response? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, as they say. People need to chill out. How are we supposed to know about the inner workings of everyone's brain and their personal life experiences? I suffer from bad anxiety and when I see something that brings back a painful memory or incites a worried thought, I just try to stifle it, forget about it and move on, I certainly wouldn't put anyone down for it as they weren't to know or care. Life doesn't come with a trigger warning. The part of my post which you edited out makes it clear that I think her wearing white shoe laces is a non-issue. It's silly. I agree with you. However if you are Queer, I think it's probably wise for your own safety to understand what red shoes laces, white shoe laces, or Nordic tattoos mean to the small violent portion of our population who want us dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 18 hours ago, PartySick said: I'm definitely bitter But I'm happy to stan for a quality artist that comes in second (or 15th ) instead of some egomaniacs with music that I just generally don't care for I love hot tea, tell 'em! another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: Just had to say that I found your comment very funny! I want to know what class you even learn that stuff in! If there is somewhere that teaches this, I have to say...only in America. I'm pretty sure other countries have much more important issues to teach their youth than what shoelace colours mean in certain cultures and movements. It only seems to be Western countries that seem bothered with teaching nonsense like this. Like I was saying earlier, why is it that white Westerners are expected to know the meaning of everything in every culture and know the symbolism behind everything to make sure that they aren't disrespecting anyone? Yet every other race and culture on the planet is not expected to do the same? Yet whites get called uncultured, ignorant cretins for not researching each and every little thing? Double standards, much? I went to a private elementary school and public high school in Chicago and I was never taught this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Jealousy it's such an evil thing to watch someone like you... nobody wins when you're full of envy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juju 18,907 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The way that one dude was singing at the VMAs, I'd stop the cocky act real fast tbh... Made Halsey look like ****ing Celine Dion. ❤ x ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah X 5,250 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I would still take their 17.34 inches tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,861 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 17 hours ago, SKANK said: The part of my post which you edited out makes it clear that I think her wearing white shoe laces is a non-issue. It's silly. I agree with you. However if you are Queer, I think it's probably wise for your own safety to understand what red shoes laces, white shoe laces, or Nordic tattoos mean to the small violent portion of our population who want us dead. But what about people, queer or not, who have absolutely no idea about these symbols? It's not like they go searching for "visual cues that someone is anti-LGBT" on a daily basis. And what about people who think shoelaces have absolutely no bearing on their beliefs and have never been taught that they do? If there's some negative symbols out there, yes, maybe they should be discussed but there's a line to be drawn. Something as pointless as shoelaces is just going to make people paranoid. If you go around looking at people's shoelaces to work out if you're safe or not, I feel sad for you. And it'll get to a point where so many garments and ways of wearing them are claimed as negative symbols that everyone will be afraid to wear anything at all! Quite simply, there's a line to be drawn. Surely a better lesson to teach is "In some cases, white shoelaces mean this, but don't go around assuming the worst of every single person who you see wearing white shoelaces because they are a perfectly legitimate thing to wear, they may be unaware of a secondary meaning, or may know and simply not care?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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