DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 5 hours ago, VenusBitch said: How is this relevant to Gaga? MODS SHUT THIS DOWN PLEASE Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 5 hours ago, Gaga of Time said: Now the real question is, is this gonna push oil companies to make better lubes for the bottoms? dafuq Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 5 hours ago, VenusBitch said: How is this relevant to Gaga? MODS SHUT THIS DOWN PLEASE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 i cant believe we dont let people grow marijuana and yet these companies get to rape the earth and make it sick and unfit for our future people. im so disgusted with this culture at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactastica 318 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 OH, do I have a lot to say about this news story and what they selectively don't mention. I live there. NO one wants this. The whole town and the surrounding area are against it. We have the last surviving spring in large spring complex that happens to be the worlds largest freshwater, spring fed pool. It's in a state park and the fracking has slowly been getting closer and closer over the last year. If you know anything about what fracking does to the land structures where it takes place, you see where I'm going here. The spring is the life blood of the people here. It's not only our revenue for tourism, but the towns nearby would entirely go ghost if the spring dry up; all of our agriculture, etc. not to mention the natural ecosystem and endangered species that rely on San Solomon Springs. In fact, one critically endangered fish that lives NO where else in the entire world is in Balmorhea State Park. Actually, it did live (and is named after) Comanche Springs, which entirely dried up in the mid 50's due to over drilling and mis-welling. Jeeze, sounds like a good idea to do around the last spring of it's kind, right? I've seen only one article that mentions this situation and it was about how Apache is "promising not to drill underneath the park, which they could" which is a really hollow promise since a fracking operation of this size (or even a small size) can drastically alter the earth beneath or near the springs-which I may mention come from up to 400 miles away and through the earth, so even if they don't drill "right under the park" the earth shifting from fracking could entirely change our water table and the springs could stop flowing entirely, never to return. Not to mention, their Ivory Towers are ruining our night skies, some of the last dark skies in the country and especially Texas. IT'S A MESS! There's nothing good about it. EDIT: also, we had a 3.5 earthquake the other day. we ain't supposed to be havin' to earthquakes in West Texas, Y'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle 14,068 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Is this going to boost Perfect Illusion sales? If not, I DON'T CURR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, Haylan said: OH, do I have a lot to say about this news story and what they selectively don't mention. I live there. NO one wants this. The whole town and the surrounding area are against it. We have the last surviving spring in large spring complex that happens to be the worlds largest freshwater, spring fed pool. It's in a state park and the fracking has slowly been getting closer and closer over the last year. If you know anything about what fracking does to the land structures where it takes place, you see where I'm going here. The spring is the life blood of the people here. It's not only our revenue for tourism, but the towns nearby would entirely go ghost if the spring dry up; all of our agriculture, etc. not to mention the natural ecosystem and endangered species that rely on San Solomon Springs. In fact, one critically endangered fish that lives NO where else in the entire world is in Balmorhea State Park. Actually, it did live (and is named after) Comanche Springs, which entirely dried up in the mid 50's due to over drilling and mis-welling. Jeeze, sounds like a good idea to do around the last spring of it's kind, right? I've seen only one article that mentions this situation and it was about how Apache is "promising not to drill underneath the park, which they could" which is a really hollow promise since a fracking operation of this size (or even a small size) can drastically alter the earth beneath or near the springs-which I may mention come from up to 400 miles away and through the earth, so even if they don't drill "right under the park" the earth shifting from fracking could entirely change our water table and the springs could stop flowing entirely, never to return. Not to mention, their Ivory Towers are ruining our night skies, some of the last dark skies in the country and especially Texas. IT'S A MESS! There's nothing good about it. EDIT: also, we had a 3.5 earthquake the other day. we ain't supposed to be havin' to earthquakes in West Texas, Y'all. I wasnt aware of the situation in this specific area although I do know that fracking causes damage Thankyou for your view on this If it makes u feel any better, fracking is hardly the worst method of oil extraction Here in Canada We have the worlds 3rd lagest Reserved (175 Billion Barrels) in Oil Sands. Entire forests have to be cut down in order to excavate the soil with oil. Natural Gas has to be burned to super heat water in order to seperate oil from sand/soil producing much CO2 In addition the toxic water is dumped and creates huge lakes of black toxic water Fortunately pressure to reduce impact has new technologies reducing impact including: - steam capture to re-use water to reduce toxic run offs - Insitu (injects hot steam or microwaves underground) so that in most cases excavation is no longer required and less Natural Gas is burned - Full Land restitution is now required in Canada It was so bad before that Oil Sands extraction was literally barbaric to environment way worse than Fracking. Now its not as bad, but still pretty bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactastica 318 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 16 hours ago, Economy said: Entire forests have to be cut down in order to excavate the soil with oil. Natural Gas has to be burned to super heat water in order to seperate oil from sand/soil producing much CO2 In addition the toxic water is dumped and creates huge lakes of black toxic water Well, I don't think this should be a pissing contest of what's worse, it's really all bad. And many people value forest environment over a rare sensitive desert habitat so we get down to opinion. It's really not the point. Also, those things you mention they do here too, the burning gas, the black water, that's normal down here. The water table shifting and lack of filler water creates massive sinkholes that are sometimes several miles wide. It amazes me this is something that is still allowed with everything we know about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, Haylan said: Well, I don't think this should be a pissing contest of what's worse, it's really all bad. And many people value forest environment over a rare sensitive desert habitat so we get down to opinion. It's really not the point. Also, those things you mention they do here too, the burning gas, the black water, that's normal down here. The water table shifting and lack of filler water creates massive sinkholes that are sometimes several miles wide. It amazes me this is something that is still allowed with everything we know about it Its allowed because the world needs oil People fight the battle from the wrong side Trying to stop every project 1 by 1 is inneficient and if u succeed u create chaos by cutting supply of a vital resource instead we need to go to the root of the issue which is demand for fossil fuels to begin with Coal never got as much attention as Oil maybe because we dont see it as much. But its actually more toxic than oil People pushed for green methods of electricity such as wind, solar etc and its peojected that this year or next year Coal Consumption will begin to decline. Coal prices already collapsed and fewer new Coal extraction mines are being prepared If we kill demand for oil, say electric cars finally become affordable and practicle for everyone, Demand for oil would drop by 30% and less projects would be fought for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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