Shadowcrest 2,487 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 hour ago, danwasd said: They're all bitter because of the 2013 fiasco. However, Gaga needs all the promo available, deserved or not. Don't quote me I still don't even remember the 2013 fiasco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 hour ago, DemeLarell said: I see a lot of people saying the VMAs don't deserve/appreciate Gaga in many threads..... I'm trying to understand.... someone help me out. The VMAs damaged her career in 2013 by causing a rushed performance. And they didn't allow a true artist to show her creativity. That kind of thing hurts an artist deeply. Gaga is truly in the business for the art. If she becomes the hottest, most in-demand artist again and still doesn't attend the VMAs, then the VMAs will have reaped what they sowed. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagafan2017 103 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Applause was picked at the end of 2012 as the lead single when troy and interscope wanted it released but gaga refused. It's not the vmas fault that Gagas work ethic and discipline collapsed in 2013 and led to the performance and video being rushed. She had plenty of time to rehearse and plan for those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, Ronk said: The VMAs damaged her career in 2013 by causing a rushed performance. And they didn't allow a true artist to show her creativity. That kind of thing hurts an artist deeply. Gaga is truly in the business for the art. If she becomes the hottest, most in-demand artist again and still doesn't attend the VMAs, then the VMAs will have reaped what they sowed. Oh come on. The VMA performance wasn't that bad. It was the bad management that damaged her career. And the VMAs are just doing their job. What Gaga was trying to do was outside of the parental guidelines set for the VMAs. The same thing happened to Nicki Minaj with Anaconda. I would love to see Gaga on the VMA stage..... Well I would just love to see her on any stage. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, Ronk said: The VMAs damaged her career in 2013 by causing a rushed performance. And they didn't allow a true artist to show her creativity. That kind of thing hurts an artist deeply. Gaga is truly in the business for the art. If she becomes the hottest, most in-demand artist again and still doesn't attend the VMAs, then the VMAs will have reaped what they sowed. 3 minutes ago, Luke Putres said: Applause was picked at the end of 2012 as the lead single when troy and interscope wanted it released but gaga refused. It's not the vmas fault that Gagas work ethic and discipline collapsed in 2013 and led to the performance and video being rushed. She had plenty of time to rehearse and plan for those things. I didn't know this but this too ^^^^^^^^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Just now, DemeLarell said: Oh come on. The VMA performance wasn't that bad. It was the bad management that damaged her career. And the VMAs are just doing their job. What Gaga was trying to do was outside of the parental guidelines set for the VMAs. The same thing happened to Nicki Minaj with Anaconda. I would love to see Gaga on the VMA stage..... Well I would just love to see her on any stage. lol I see it differently, just my opinion. Even if Gaga is upset about her treatment in 2013, she may attend in the future because it's in her character to be kind in all circumstances. I don't think "snubbing" and "vindictiveness" is in her vocabulary. That's part of her greatness as a person, I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I understand and respect your opinion. But (and idk if this is you but I'm talking in general on GGD) people act like they know Gaga or acting like she is just to Good for the VMAs when in reality she is the type of person that should be on there. Her, Beyonce, Rihanna, and other major people (of all gernes) of their caliber should be the ones to take the stage to to take away the lack luster feel. 2009 and before was so much better. I think this year will be better too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 23 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: I understand and respect your opinion. But (and idk if this is you but I'm talking in general on GGD) people act like they know Gaga or acting like she is just to Good for the VMAs when in reality she is the type of person that should be on there. Her, Beyonce, Rihanna, and other major people (of all gernes) of their caliber should be the ones to take the stage to to take away the lack luster feel. 2009 and before was so much better. I think this year will be better too. I didn't say she was too good for the VMAs. I do think when she performs, she is the best they have. 2013 was the year when it was cool to hate on Gaga and even damage her career. I don't think the VMAs were above jumping on that bandwagon. Imo, taking away Gaga's artistry and creativity is the ultimate snub. At the time, I was very surprised Gaga didn't just walk away. I know we see the circumstances quite differently. I see a double standard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFLv9Ns1EuQ And now I hear that Kanye is told he can do anything he wants at the VMAs. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 But come on. It's three years. They can change. And like I said .... parental guidelines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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