Let's Discuss Gaga's 'Apple Music' Deal

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4 minutes ago, Young Pancake said:

If the contract was already sign then the plan is moving forward like it was supposed.

This. 

I don't know why people don't understand this little BIG fact. Lol

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2 minutes ago, Young Pancake said:

If the contract was already sign then the plan is moving forward like it was supposed.

Just now, iMonster said:

This. 

I don't know why people don't understand this little BIG fact. Lol

hmm, i don't think so. the Billboard articles also states that they believe exclusives..

"are often compromise both of these by encouraging piracy and locking users into services they don’t want. While exclusives provide a short term benefit to the service, they ultimately pose more limitations on musicians creating a barrier between artists and their fans.”

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3 minutes ago, Young Pancake said:

If the contract was already sign then the plan is moving forward like it was supposed.

Kinda this. If a contract was signed, I don't understand how UMG would be able to ban artists from using exclusives, thus not following a contract. Legally, couldn't Apple sue Interscope/ Gaga then for breaching a contract? You can't just back out of a legally binding contract without consequences. Either Apple could ask for reimbursement or just plain out sue for something else.

Maybe UMG WILL allow Gaga if things were already set in place but they are banning exclusives from here on out.

Either way people are OVERREACTING when they think this already makes the LG5 era a mess. If the contract with Apple is legally disdained I'm sure Gaga could just renegotiate with some of the performances she would have had to turn down because of the Apple contract. I'm sure the VMAs would DIE to have Gaga perform for our viewership.

Either way, people need to CHILL

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I would highly doubt UMG would be able to retroactively burn an alleged partnership with Gaga and Apple. Contracts are everything like people have stated. If anything Gaga and her label are making sure their are no shady moves in the work, ala Frank Ocean

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i'm going to add a poll because i want to see how many of y'all are here for an Apple Music Exclusive.

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And another thing, if Gaga doesn't get the VMAs, Global Citizens Fest, Apple Music Fest, iHeart Fest, or the Apple partnership, it's disappointing obviously, but not a mess. There's literally so many other worldwide opportunities like UK partnerships like O2, EE, etc., other American partnerships like Intel, Kia, etc., and countless partnerships waiting to happen in Canada, the rest of Europe, and Australia.

Bobby has been nothing but smart thus far, have faith

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2 minutes ago, Music said:

hmm, i don't think so. the Billboard articles also states that they believe exclusives..

"are often compromise both of these by encouraging piracy and locking users into services they don’t want. While exclusives provide a short term benefit to the service, they ultimately pose more limitations on musicians creating a barrier between artists and their fans.”

That's fine what Billboard thinks and it's true to a certain extent but that doesn't take away the fact that Gaga already has a contract with Apple Music. Furthermore. . . .

1 minute ago, TEANUS said:

Kinda this. If a contract was signed, I don't understand how UMG would be able to ban artists from using exclusives, thus not following a contract. Legally, couldn't Apple sue Interscope/ Gaga then for breaching a contract? You can't just back out of a legally binding contract without consequences. Either Apple could ask for reimbursement or just plain out sue for something else.

Exactly. Gaga/Interscope and especially UMG. 

It's a different story if they're saying future signings. But if a contract is already in place, UMG should get ready to pay for breaching contracts. 

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2 minutes ago, TEANUS said:

If a contract was signed, I don't understand how UMG would be able to ban artists from using exclusives, thus not following a contract. Legally, couldn't Apple sue Interscope/ Gaga then for breaching a contract? You can't just back out of a legally binding contract without consequences.

It all depends on the wording of the contract. As I mentioned in the other thread, it's very likely both parties included an "out clause" that allows either party to nullify the deal, without warning. This is common practice among business contracts. 

Additionally, it depends on WHO signed the contracts. Gaga and UMG are 2 separate entities. If the contract was signed between Gaga and Apple, they would have had to include language that allows UMG to end the deal if they choose, since they own the music. 

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I'll allow myself to make one critic about gaga's team (I usually try not to, cuz little managers are the worst ), but they could be a little more transparent when this kind of thing came up...one tweet from Bobby saying "the situation has been dealt with" or "there was never an Apple deal" or "the plans have not changed" could put out this fire in two seconds.

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Just now, ReidOne said:

It all depends on the wording of the contract. As I mentioned in the other thread, it's very likely both parties included an "out clause" that allows either party to nullify the deal, without warning. This is common practice among business contracts. 

Additionally, it depends on WHO signed the contracts. Gaga and UMG are 2 separate entities. If the contract was signed between Gaga and Apple, they would have had to include language that allows UMG to end the deal if they choose, since they own the music. 

Who tf knows tbqfh 

I get everything you're saying, all I'm saying is that people need to chill in thinking that this makes the LG5 era a mess. We know next to nothing about Gaga/ Apple's sides to this so we don't know the meanings of the contract, maybe they're banning all partnerships from here on out like I said. Even if, like I said, there's still a ton of promotional opportunities that I'm sure they will look into if this one falls through

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1 minute ago, iMonster said:

That's fine what Billboard thinks and it's true to a certain extent but that doesn't take away the fact that Gaga already has a contract with Apple Music. Furthermore. . . .

Billboard quoted what was stated by the chairman of Universal, they aren't here for exclusives fullstop.

"There’s a need for a level playing-ground, overweighted positioning hurts non-exclusive acts, of which every major has many."

idk what to expect, they wouldn't be happy with Gaga's "betraying" their newly-legalised contract in regards.

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Just now, TEANUS said:

Who tf knows tbqfh 

I get everything you're saying, all I'm saying is that people need to chill in thinking that this makes the LG5 era a mess. We know next to nothing about Gaga/ Apple's sides to this so we don't know the meanings of the contract, maybe they're banning all partnerships from here on out like I said. Even if, like I said, there's still a ton of promotional opportunities that I'm sure they will look into if this one falls through

Completely, completely, completely agree. We are all being nothing more than Little Speculators at this point. There is really no real need to lose our **** over this. The original article on GrapeJuice was mere speculation in itself! 

Until we have seen the terms of the contract, we're all just making uneducated guesses.

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poll added guys!

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4 minutes ago, Iwontell said:

I'll allow myself to make one critic about gaga's team (I usually try not to, cuz little managers are the worst ), but they could be a little more transparent when this kind of thing came up...one tweet from Bobby saying "the situation has been dealt with" or "there was never an Apple deal" or "the plans have not changed" could put out this fire in two seconds.

ALSO THIS. She and her team have ALWAYS allowed messes to ensue and that's one of their biggest issues. They HAVE to be aware of all the messes that occur on this site, Twitter, ATRL, and everywhere else. Take the ARTPOP app for example, rather than making sure we expected nothing from the app, Gaga and her team allowed us to continue looking forward to the end of that damn countdown, thus causing a huge meltdown that could have been prevented with a simple: "Sorry monsters, app plans fell through with changes in management. Xoxo". We still would've been pressed, but, at least the meltdowns would have been prevented

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We'll see in a few weeks! 

Either way I already have my money ready to buy the actual single, so this streaming mess doesn't even concern me.