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Glory is very forgettable


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3 hours ago, donthatemeplss said:

You are wrong in many ways. Sorry but you are. Britney really worked hard for this record. She gave it 100% of herself. This is her best work in ages. And YES I will say it - It is better that Circus, Femme Fatale and BJ. It has soul. Not Blackout. Blackout is something else. Britney wants to do things this time. She is doing VMAs. She was not performing at the VMAs for 10 years. And now she is here, she looks better that ever, her voice is amazing, her body is amazing, Glory is amazing. And don't you dare to come at me now. Britney is back. 

Delusional :woohoo:

jk, love you sis I didnt even listen to the album lol

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1 minute ago, VOLANTIS said:

Gaga is all about self empowerment. Tell me that's not a self recurring theme throughout her discography. Britney makes great Sex anthems that somehow sound very innocent and tongue in cheek. 

Your threads are status worthy. If you're forcing yourself to shut out every other artist besides Gaga, maybe that doesn't really qualify your opinion as relevant. And you can't stand anyone else expressing their opinions on your threads. That is an issue. 

I don't shut anyone down. I just respond to the people that want to shut my opinion down because they think I am hating on an artist. Also, Gaga has covered a wide range of topics. Self empowerment was mostly just BTW.

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2 minutes ago, Enigma said:

I don't shut anyone down. I just respond to the people that want to shut my opinion down because they think I am hating on an artist. Also, Gaga has covered a wide range of topics. Self empowerment was mostly just BTW.

Britney has covered so much more than Sex though. Why aren't you taking that into account and actually making your reviews sound more unbiased? 

I really think you should continue making review threads but with something other than cheap shots at bashing the artist and their work. Make it appear constructive and less hateful. 

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9 minutes ago, Bradley Cooper said:

I NEED A LINK.

 

Find it outside! :neyde:

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2 minutes ago, Versace said:

Exactly 

I think Britney is the type where she's as good as her producers, when it comes to making an album. Britney is an entertainer at heart, she takes what the producers and writers give her and takes it to a place we all love and appreciate, the same thing could be said about Rihanna. Artistically we all know Britney is not capable of creating or envisioning a sound for her, an idea is pitched to her and she is in control of whether she wants to take it or not. With Max (martin) he was able to help Britney evolve musically while still showing off her signature sound, when Britney felt it was time to change it up, she worked with the incredible duo Bloodshy&Avant and Danja who contributed to the sound of In The Zone and Blackout. Really if we think about it comes down to 3 or 4 producers whom really crafted and molded Britney's sound and discography. Britney Jean didn't feel like a Britney album cause more or so it was Will.i.am recklessly experimenting. Glory seems to have found better producers but they are still not that experienced with Britney to know how to make a true Britney Spears album. Glory might just be her riskiest album, she artistically experiments on it a lot and I applaud her for that, It truly allows us to view her in a new light. Glory tries to sound diverse and artistic but it's an average attempt, cause things just don't feel as cohesive as they do on Blackout or Femme Fatale. Maybe calling up Max for this album would have been a better idea, his last full album effort 1989 with Taylor gave us amazing pop songs that are far from basic in my opinion. 

 

I think it has its moments (Coupure Électrique, If I'm Dancing, Do You Wanna Come Over) which are clearcut Britney-isms and thus I appreciate their inclusion on the record. But just about everything else sounds like the Top 40 minimal-pop/rnb filler we're all so accustomed to hearing these days. Personally, I dont see this album as risky at all. Sure she hasn't gone this exact route before in terms of it being minimal rnb influenced pop like I said, but its safe because shes conforming to what is popular in a way that is not distinctive. As opposed to how she adopted dubstep for Femme Fatale in way that brought her into the then new pop landscape without abandoning what it is that makes her Britney.

Honestly im taking back any comment ive made calling Glory bad. I dont think its bad, I think a better explanation of my point of view is that I dont think its interesting. She held back a lot on this album, which is the same issue I had with Gwens latest bore. Neither are unlistenable records, its just that they fade into everything else surrounding them.

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1 minute ago, VOLANTIS said:

Britney has covered so much more than Sex though. Why aren't you taking that into account and actually making your reviews sound more unbiased? 

I really think you should continue making review threads but with something other than cheap shots at bashing the artist and their work. Make it appear constructive and less hateful. 

I know Britney has covered more than sex. Is just that she keeps coming back to this theme over and over again. Anyways, I don't hate any of the artists that I talk negatively about. This is all just strictly about their musical input and nothing more. And whenever I write these threads I simply summarize my main points because people usually don't like reading too much. 

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7 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said:

Britney has covered so much more than Sex though. Why aren't you taking that into account and actually making your reviews sound more unbiased? 

I really think you should continue making review threads but with something other than cheap shots at bashing the artist and their work. Make it appear constructive and less hateful. 

I get what you're trying to argue and I dont know this users history, but this thread didnt come across as hateful imo. Maybe not constructive, but more like a general opinion. which is why it probably would have been status worthy like others have stated.

And quite honestly Britney hasnt covered much more than sex. You cant be bringing Gaga into this argument as if it can be argued that she and Britney are on the same level in terms of what theyre willing to explore both lyrically and sonically. I get that Poker Face and Sheisse arent exactly pinnacles of individualistic brilliance, but Gaga is inarguably more daring than Britney has ever been. And I dont say that in bias, ive held a spot for Britney in my pop heart since I was 7 years old. But im just saying man, no.

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1 minute ago, Vague said:

I get what you're trying to argue and I dont know this users history, but this thread didnt come across as hateful imo. Maybe not constructive, but more like a general opinion. which is why it probably would have been status worthy like others have stated.

And quite honestly Britney hasnt covered much more than sex. You cant be bringing Gaga into this argument as if it can be argued that she and Britney are on the same level in terms of what theyre willing to explore both lyrically and sonically. I get that Poker Face and Sheisse arent exactly pinnacles of individualistic brilliance, but Gaga is inarguably more daring than Britney has ever been. And I dont say that in bias, ive held a spot for Britney in my pop heart since I was 7 years old. But im just saying man, no.

Enigma is quite famous for his review threads and most of the time it doesn't come out as exactly pleasant. This is one of the few times he actually kept the hatred towards the artist on the DL. Check his stuff out. 

Britney Jean was almost completely free of her usual sex related songs. And obviously Britney would go back to what the GP loved her for. I'm not bringing Gaga into this to compare them both as artists. I brought Gaga to to make the point that sometimes the fans / General public loves an artist for their brands. Self empowerment is a recurring theme the General Public recognizes Gaga for. And Britney does what she does. Its pointless to call out one artist for representing their brand while you stan the other simply for. 

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2 minutes ago, Vague said:

I think it has its moments (Coupure Électrique, If I'm Dancing, Do You Wanna Come Over) which are clearcut Britney-isms and thus I appreciate their inclusion on the record. But just about everything else sounds like the Top 40 minimal-pop/rnb filler we're all so accustomed to hearing these days. Personally, I dont see this album as risky at all. Sure she hasn't gone this exact route before in terms of it being minimal rnb influenced pop like I said, but its safe because shes conforming to what is popular in a way that is not distinctive. As opposed to how she adopted dubstep for Femme Fatale in way that brought her into the then new pop landscape without abandoning what it is that makes her Britney.

Honestly im taking back any comment ive made calling Glory bad. I dont think its bad, I think a better explanation of my point of view is that I dont think its interesting. She held back a lot on this album, which is the same issue I had with Gwens latest bore. Neither are unlistenable records, its just that they fade into everything else surrounding them.

For me Britney not working with Max is such a risk, you have to see the bigger picture that this man was responsible for her sound through out the years, Glory throws Cohesiveness out the window something even Britney Jean has. The Britney formula at least from what I can see, is release an album full of hits but make the hits have a common thread so that the album can sell well, you can clearly see this in Blackout and Femme Fatale where every song sounds like it's related to the previous one sonically. In Glory how am I going from Private Show (sounds like an Ariana song) to Just Luv Me (slow RnB Tinashe style) to Do You Wanna Come Over (Raunchy Britney) to Just Like Me (Guitar verses) to Better (Major Lazor type of song) to What You Need (Rocknroll 2.0?) to Liar (a leftover track from her self titled perhaps) to heck a french song. This album throws what the past Britney albums use to reach for, sonically it's nothing special but it is risky and new in the sense, she dips her hands in all kinds of waters. So to me she didn't hold back at all, it's just she didn't give a desired outcome to me at least. 

 

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It's one person's opinion, if you disagree with it please do so maturely, if you don't like the thread or the post at all and can't refrain from disagreeing/agreeing/etc properly then please don't post in the thread :spin: Let's not attack one another please :noparty: 

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Just now, VOLANTIS said:

Enigma is quite famous for his review threads and most of the time it doesn't come out as exactly pleasant. This is one of the few times he actually kept the hatred towards the artist on the DL. Check his stuff out. 

Britney Jean was almost completely free of her usual sex related songs. And obviously Britney would go back to what the GP loved her for. I'm not bringing Gaga into this to compare them both as artists. I brought Gaga to to make the point that sometimes the fans / General public loves an artist for their brands. Self empowerment is a recurring theme the General Public recognizes Gaga for. And Britney does what she does. Its pointless to call out one artist for representing their brand while you stan the other simply for. 

True I feel you. Well, Britney Jean had plenty of sex honestly. It was just more balanced out than say..ITZ or Femme Fatale by containing balladry and that duet with her sister. But I mean....its also her worst album so thats kind of a tough example haha. I mean Britney has touched on her fame, the usual cheating boyfriend/relationship fare cliches, and never in a particularly different way. So its kind of like, I really wouldnt consider her diverse in her topics whatsoever. But I guess all of this is kind of neither here nor there since this is about Enigma haha ill just keep silent on user politics since im a newbie.

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10 minutes ago, Versace said:

For me Britney not working with Max is such a risk, you have to see the bigger picture that this man was responsible for her sound through out the years, Glory throws Cohesiveness out the window something even Britney Jean has. The Britney formula at least from what I can see, is release an album full of hits but make the hits have a common thread so that the album can sell well, you can clearly see this in Blackout and Femme Fatale where every song sounds like it's related to the previous one sonically. In Glory how am I going from Private Show (sounds like an Ariana song) to Just Luv Me (slow RnB Tinashe style) to Do You Wanna Come Over (Raunchy Britney) to Just Like Me (Guitar verses) to Better (Major Lazor type of song) to What You Need (Rocknroll 2.0?) to Liar (a leftover track from her self titled perhaps) to heck a french song. This album throws what the past Britney albums use to reach for, sonically it's nothing special but it is risky and new in the sense, she dips her hands in all kinds of waters. So to me she didn't hold back at all, it's just she didn't give a desired outcome to me at least. 

 

I kind of disagree with most of this. I dont think its a non-cohesive album at all. I think Glory is very cohesive whereas Britney Jean was actually totally disjointed. Most of its songs made no sense on their own let alone strung together as an album. But Glory carries a common thread through its entirety. She has guitar strumming on some songs and obviously more emphasis on her vocals, but every song has the same contemporary pop'n'b vibe. Ive already revoked my original "aysmal" comment and I can hear the vague diversity thats present on the album. But I still just dont think that like 90% of this album is her really going for it. Its an obvious improvement from Britney Jean which was not going to be difficult to pull off haha but its for the most part kind of beige. I mean Just Like Me and Just Luv Me are both so incredibly generic and indistinguishable from like Selena Gomez' Revival album (honestly that album keeps coming to mind because I think of it as a pinnacle of boring/personality-less modern pop). Britney has her moments of redemption on Glory, I just dont see it the way that you do.

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