boysboysboys 278 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 One of my teachers was talking about it? It's known as her best album. How do you know that the general public doesn't remember Ray of Light? Ugh, stop arguing. At least Zizka's cool about it. There's a Madonna thread, if you want to continue this.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 One of my teachers was talking about it? It's known as her best album. How do you know that the general public doesn't remember Ray of Light? My momma told me when I was young. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino 4 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Of course not. lol She's not at her peak. Well that's all I'm saying... Why is this so hard to see? Is it because the rose colored glasses?! Cataracts? :sweat: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) oh no one has to tell me that. She's not at her peak, she's in her 50s. lol But that doesn't mean that all her fans are only here for her '80s material. I mean I'm not. :) No, the general public (the ones not buying MDNA) are only here for her older stuff. Of corse the fans want it all. They are real fans. Edited April 22, 2012 by Married the Night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysboysboys 278 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Good, then we won't talk about things you don't know about. lol outheadlines? what do you mean? it'll gross more obviously but I don't think anyone will be surprised. I'm more excited to see how Gaga handles the myriad of Madonna questions flying her way next era. She kind of has two choices. Lol, false girl. Come here, I'll slap you with the ticket. :P It's more that that cloud of condemnation will never go away; some people will still not give Gaga her due, or recognize her apart from Madonna. I know we do, but some don't. The BTWBall will get lynched and it will go down Gaga's history. Edited April 22, 2012 by boysboysboys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express Yourself 2 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Ugh, stop arguing. At least Zizka's cool about it. There's a Madonna thread, if you want to continue this.. What was so bad about what I was saying? I wasn't calling him names or being rude. All I was doing was responding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) Lol, false girl. Come here, I'll slap you with the ticket. :P It's more that that cloud of condemnation will never go away; some people will still not give Gaga her due, or recognize her apart from Madonna. I know we do, but some don't. The BTWBall will get lynched and it will go down Gaga's history. I don't think anybody expects Gaga to outdo Madonna's tour this year. I think she is in the clear on this one. I am sure people will bring it up, but it won't be a thang. Edited April 22, 2012 by Married the Night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zizka 1 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) No, the general public (the ones not buying MDNA) are only her for her older stuff. Of corse the fans want it all. They are real fans. well hey I agree with you that Madonna's past her peak (obv) but she's not a nostalgia act like Cher. lol somewhere in the middle methinks. she's had a LOT of success every decade and I will argue that something like Ray of Light, Music or Hung Up e.g. are easily identifiable as Madonna staples as well as her 80s stuff. you make the general public sound 50 years old who remember her '80s reign ahahaha. But that isn't consistent with her mainly 20s - 30s demographic at concerts (I've been to every one of them since Reinvention and I can testify) :) Lol, false girl. Come here, I'll slap you with the ticket. :P It's more that that cloud of condemnation will never go away; some people will still not give Gaga her due, or recognize her apart from Madonna. I know we do, but some don't. The BTWBall will get lynched and it will go down Gaga's history. you're going?! fabulous. it will go away for Gaga if she distances herself as far away from Madonna as she can next era. I'd be putting in those sheets to the interviewers beforehand, DON'T ASK ME ABOUT MADONNA. lmao And I hope she goes through Madonna's catalogue from head to toe before she releases her single because if it sounds like anything M she'll be flayed alive and live the rest of her career under the Madonna microscope. even moreso. I can understand why so many Gaga fans are so fed up with it. I am too even. Edited April 22, 2012 by zizka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifact 0 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 While here are Madonna discussions (again), I'm going to detach a bit from this subject. Any news about Starships/WHYB videos? Which single do you think will have more longevity, and why? :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysboysboys 278 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 While here are Madonna discussions (again), I'm going to detach a bit from this subject. Any news about Starships/WHYB videos? Which single do you think will have more longevity, and why? :) lol :yell: WHYB will last longer than Starships, but I believe (and seriously hope) it won't peak as highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifact 0 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) lol :yell: WHYB will last longer than Starships, but I believe (and seriously hope) it won't peak as highly. My opinion is/was Starships peaks higher than WHYB and lasts longer. I don't see WHYB as a US/WW hit even if that song is worthy. On the other side, Starships already (?) peaked and it started to fall (where is dat video, Nicki? :cry: Don't know what's happening here). Shading that discussion Edited April 22, 2012 by Artifact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino 4 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Don't ya'll think it's telling that a Rihanna/Jay-Z collabo flopped? I do. The writing's on the wall. :coffee: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifact 0 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Don't ya'll think it's telling that a Rihanna/Jay-Z collabo flopped? I do. The writing's on the wall. Already said TTT is Rihanna's MTN :nails: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Surprised that TTT flopped. I hear it everyday on the radio! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino 4 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Already said TTT is Rihanna's MTN Only difference, Gaga will recover from 'MTN'.... :coffee: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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