QueenGaga 3,447 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Saint Laurent said: so why the bitching? Excuse me? Interscopes cancelled the DWUW video and Venus video too. They made ARTPOP what they wanted, overproduced. Not what Gaga wanted. She has less creative freedom because if she goes all out then every other pop girl on the planet will have to quit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 3 hours ago, Born To Slay said: Yes and I agree with that in many situations, but these artists that bitch knew exactly what they were getting into. so, Gaga knew she was going to be sexually harassed and driven to exhaustion and injury? Just because someone might "know" what they are getting into doesn't mean they realize the extent of it, or the amount of pressure to perform and have hits, or exactly how much money controls the industry and it's effect on artist creativity.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Evans 8,903 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I think we need to look back at what she was saying when she was having issues with her record label/ atom factory: the issue is that record companies are never satisfied with however much money she makes them because they're always going to want millions then billions if she really was about the money she wouldn't have used the millions out of her pocket for a video (g.u.y.) that her label wasn't even backing up nor does she go out of the way to get her team to take down all her music online tswift's team is ruthless in that aspect, you will not find her latest music on youtube, it's all covers and lyric videos with no sound. there are plenty who only do it for the money- gaga isn't one of them and I think her passion for music proves that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 31 minutes ago, giskardsb said: so, Gaga knew she was going to be sexually harassed and driven to exhaustion and injury? Just because someone might "know" what they are getting into doesn't mean they realize the extent of it, or the amount of pressure to perform and have hits, or exactly how much money controls the industry and it's effect on artist creativity.  Not the sexually harassed part. And she did the injury to herself. But come on, it's pretty well known at this point that labels hinder creative freedom, artists just ignore that for fame, which is fine but th don't complain afterward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 3 hours ago, LG said: At no point in Gaga's career has she done anything to show that she truly believes in music not the bling so i dont really buy it The tea tho , sorry y'all but this sis is speaking the truth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 2 hours ago, TheFame Monster said: In a Z100 interview for ARTPOP she even said all of the songs were made to be radio hits. If that only was the truth  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 3 hours ago, LG said: At no point in Gaga's career has she done anything to show that she truly believes in music not the bling so i dont really buy it I kinda agree, except now she's showing up to the studio driving a ford pickup looking like shes been homeless for a month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 5 hours ago, Born To Slay said: Yes and I agree with that in many situations, but these artists that bitch knew exactly what they were getting into. Not everyone. I'm sure some get deceived. I've never seen an actual music contract though Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 9 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: Not everyone. I'm sure some get deceived. I've never seen an actual music contract though But it's well known that artists lose their artistic rights when they sign a contract for a label and plus, even if it weren't common knowledge, you're supposed to read the contract. It just seems like 90%+ of artists sign along for fame but then when they get fame, rail against the contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,007 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 people like fka twigs, bjork, grimes, still get to tour all around the world, put out great, ne, amazing videos, music, performances, and sometimes, even do mainstream televised spots. and they have always refused to sell out. so it is possible... again gaga could avoid all of this seeming hypocrisy if she just ditch the lame pop game for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Born To Slay said: But it's well known that artists lose their artistic rights when they sign a contract for a label and plus, even if it weren't common knowledge, you're supposed to read the contract. It just seems like 90%+ of artists sign along for fame but then when they get fame, rail against the contract. The fact that it's well known should cause concern. Plus I think Music Not The Bling is more of a "I care about the music more than the money" than **** the industry. Putting art before pop but still fusing the two. Thats just how I see it. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 "I don't want to be part of the machine... I want the machine to be part of me. " - Lady Gaga. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre0 547 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 9 hours ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: Employees are your first customer in a business though. I agree complaining constantly about your job is not the best route to go but corporations should hear out their employees complaints. Yeah but lets not act like gaga is some 9-5 low paid employee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, SilkSpectre0 said: Yeah but lets not act like gaga is some 9-5 low paid employee So what? I mean she should still be able to carve a better path for the next generation. Just imagine if the art was more important than the image? But the music industry largely focused on the image of the artist. Plus at that time in her career it felt like the world was against her and I'm sure she just expressed herself in that way because she was so full of doubt, anger and fear. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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