Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 If Gaga does Adele/Amy Winehouse style music (easy to sing along, anthemic, relatable), then hell yeah she can dominate streaming. She's got the voice, she's got the lyric writing ability, she's got an excellent team, so now she just needs the right "look". I have a feeling she's already figured it out. She is going to redefine normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 20 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: If you want to diss Gaga, join ATRL Bye How am I dissing her? Should I lie like you and say she's a streaming monster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanasNerfGun 4,679 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Gaga's albums have never disappointed me except for maybe C2C at first but bitch she had me rootin', tootin', and twerkin' to jazz standards so I ain't even mad I still gave her dat coinT. All I'm saying is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanneMonster 8,539 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Carmex said: YouTube streams of pop girls from January-March 2016: Adele - 862,081,569 streams Taylor Swift - 791,514,557 streams Rihanna - 616,407,147 streams Beyonce - 533,188,118 streams Katy Perry - 500,765,373 streams Shakira - 408,583,998 streams Ariana Grande - 393,130,823 streams Selena Gomez - 374,590,215 streams Ellie Goulding - 352,908,945 streams Meghan Trainor - 321,103,508 streams Celine Dion - 264,536,517 streams Britney Spears - 221,284,544 streams Nicki Minaj - 211,011,235 streamsLady Gaga - 195,403,173 streams Miley Cyrus - 166,803,139 streams Whitney Houston - 147,685,424 streams Jennifer Lopez - 143,864,891 streams P!nk - 140,813,221 streams Mariah Carey - 140,200,770 streams Christina Aguilera - 114,570,577 streams Madonna - 107,272,596 streams Ke$ha - 100,250,323 streams Alicia Keys - 81,394,600 streams Kelly Clarkson - 80,315,578 streams Lorde - 52,859,981 streams Destiny's Child - 48,935,369 streams Carrie Underwood - 44,245,735 streams U.S. Only: Rihanna — 121,713,012 Taylor Swift — 119,410,118 Adele — 105,240,061 Beyoncé — 93,837,326 Selena Gomez — 65,820,402 Katy Perry — 64,249,195 Meghan Trainor — 50,420,625 Ariana Grande — 49,375,848 Demi Lovato — 38,973,987Lady Gaga — 31,028,862 Britney Spears — 28,054,173 Shakira — 27,033,780 Celine Dion — 26,363,701 Mariah Carey — 25,774,872 Jennifer Lopez — 16,014,106 Christina Aguilera — 14,104,002 Madonna — 10,748,506 This is 2016! She doesn't have songs to stream! Her last songs are from 2013 (not counting c2c), so I think it's very good for someone that hasn't released new music in 3 years I See You Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 28,897 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Yes it all depends on the music and the video. Taylor is a huge streaming artist but her last two singles/videos barely even cross 100 million views. Katy's Birthday video was long and wasn't that well received so views suffered (tho the lyric video did well and idk about Spotify listens). It just all comes down to how she gets promoted and presented in the next era. Idk if it's also a reason but I wonder if her low YouTube/Spotify subscribers is affecting her recurring streams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradshaw 266 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 You sound exactly like an ATRL member with your threads. Did your petty ass get banned? Why are you here darling? In your other thread you berate Gaga by calling her a has-been, "the modern Cyndi Lauder", saying she had a chance to redeem herself in 2013 but failed, calling her "FAD OF POP." And now you're here in this thread questioning here streaming stats when you already know the answer. You gave it to yourself in your other thread. You just want to be shady under the guise of "Oh darling you're all delusional! I'm the only sane Gaga stan! Gaga is a fad, get over it. But while were at it, why is she flopping at streaming again?" YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER. So quit making these stale attempt at threads questioning Gaga's vitality and success. She will release another album, it will get streams, and you will still be pressed like a damn bug under a shoe. Know that. i caught your fever, i'll be feeling it forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,128 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Carmex said: I never said she had to be the most popular. I'm just pointing out that she is a weak streaming artist in comparison to her peers. It's worth discussing. Weak compared to a few of her currently top-performing peers...and yet strong compared to 99.99999....% of other artists out there. It's worth discussing if she can make enough money from streaming to make a good living, but not how she compares to her peers. This isn't a zero-sum game. Her success is still absolutely amazing! Madonna is even further down the list but "weak compared to her peers" is not a phrase that would come to my mind to describe anything at all about Madonna. She's can sit and just silently be legendary with or without streaming sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, Sara said: Weak compared to a few of her currently top-performing peers...and yet strong compared to 99.99999....% of other artists out there. It's worth discussing if she can make enough money from streaming to make a good living, but not how she compares to her peers. This isn't a zero-sum game. Her success is still absolutely amazing! Madonna is even further down the list but "weak compared to her peers" is not a phrase that would come to my mind to describe anything at all about Madonna. She's can sit and just silently be legendary with or without streaming sales. Madonna is from a different time. Her good years have been long past her before the streaming era came along. So of course Madonna's lack of streaming success won't touch her as an artist since she has already been solidified as a legend for about two decades now. Gaga however started her career in the digital era. She was one of the first successful digital artists ever. Now that streaming runs basically the industry and the charts, it's important that Gaga adapts. And her lack of streams are worth mentioning, because she's always been a digital artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 47 minutes ago, bradshaw said: You sound exactly like an ATRL member with your threads. Did your petty ass get banned? Why are you here darling? In your other thread you berate Gaga by calling her a has-been, "the modern Cyndi Lauder", saying she had a chance to redeem herself in 2013 but failed, calling her "FAD OF POP." And now you're here in this thread questioning here streaming stats when you already know the answer. You gave it to yourself in your other thread. You just want to be shady under the guise of "Oh darling you're all delusional! I'm the only sane Gaga stan! Gaga is a fad, get over it. But while were at it, why is she flopping at streaming again?" YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER. So quit making these stale attempt at threads questioning Gaga's vitality and success. She will release another album, it will get streams, and you will still be pressed like a damn bug under a shoe. Know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,128 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Carmex said: Gaga however started her career in the digital era. She was one of the first successful digital artists ever. Now that streaming runs basically the industry and the charts, it's important that Gaga adapts. And her lack of streams are worth mentioning, because she's always been a digital artist. True, if she can't get enough streaming sales to make money, that's a real problem. Yes, she will need to do well in streaming. I'm not sure how much she can control that other than to make good songs, which is what she's trying to do anyway. But I don't see how it matters what those streaming sales compare to other artists. It only matters if you want bragging rights like "my artist is better than your artist". And if you do want bragging rights, that's fine, but the real question then it's not really a question about adapting to streaming sales so much as finding a way to beat Adele at something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Just now, Sara said: True, if she can't get enough streaming sales to make money, that's a real problem. Yes, she will need to do well in streaming. I'm not sure how much she can control that other than to make good songs, which is what she's trying to do anyway. But I don't see how it matters what those streaming sales compare to other artists. It only matters if you want bragging rights like "my artist is better than your artist". And if you do want bragging rights, that's fine, but the real question then it's not really a question about adapting to streaming sales so much as finding a way to beat Adele at something. It matters becomes streaming counts towards charting. Streaming is the new sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 5 pages in and nobody mentions how Gaga's long-ass video prevents people from rewatching them on Youtube. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavieenrose 410 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, A Gaga Lad said: 5 pages in and nobody mentions how Gaga's long-ass videos prevents people from rewatching them on Youtube. But it's art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 29 minutes ago, lavieenrose said: But it's art I didn't say it wasn't. But do you think they would go through 9 minutes of dialogue before the song even starts? Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I don't see why it's so difficult to understand lol. Streaming only really became huge around 2013. Views are much bigger now, three years on. And even then, ARTPOP is Gaga's least popular era by far so to a lot of people she hasn't been relevant since 2011 lol. Literally every single artist above Gaga in that list has released since ARTPOP. The only one that surprises me is Celine, I guess My Heart Will Go On is just really big for recurrent streams? Also surprised that Miley is lower than Gaga when she had Wrecking Ball and We Can't Stop which I assumed were both massive on YouTube. So yeah her recurrents aren't great but not nearly as bad as you're trying to make out. If the music she releases this time will be popular and accessible on these platforms, then it'll be big on streaming too. It's fairly simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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