Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Just now, HOMODRAKE said: Aren't you nervous that by not voting for the lesser evil, you may be giving the bigger evil the upper hand? I don't want to give my consent to any amount of evil. If I don't feel passionate about either candidate it's a pointless statement to vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,997 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, AntiPotCrusader said: I live in South Dakota. Trump will probably win there no matter what tbh. So if you don't vote it truly won't matter much. But you should really consider voting for the lesser evil of your choice. You are still getting your voice out there. Both candidates will direct the country in two very different directions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Just now, Morphine Prince said: Trump will probably win there no matter what tbh. So if you don't vote it truly won't matter much. But you should really consider voting for the lesser evil of your choice. You are still getting your voice out there. Both candidates will direct the country in two very different directions. Changing the man/woman as the figurehead won't change much. It's the overall system that needs fixing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,973 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 27 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: I disagree. Current Hillary Supporter, and yes, this was obvious to anyone who's thinking at all Still voting for her with no regrets. The only blind ones I see in this race are Trump supporters Trump supporters are blind by their very nature, but Clinton supporters are willfully blind. They could, if they wanted to, see the true nature of Clinton and what she wants to achieve. Raw power, and the speaking fees that go along with it. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,973 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Just now, AntiPotCrusader said: Changing the man/woman as the figurehead won't change much. It's the overall system that needs fixing. This is true, but we would need a lot more overwhelming support to change the system than to vote in someone to allow that change to happen. With trump or Clinton, the system won't change. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,997 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 1 minute ago, AntiPotCrusader said: Changing the man/woman as the figurehead won't change much. It's the overall system that needs fixing. Well, not voting won't achieve any of that. Politics isn't an all or nothing business, it's about compromise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,973 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, AntiPotCrusader said: This is my first election that I'm able to vote. And I choose to not vote. I shouldn't have to choose the lesser of two evils. Honestly, check out the third-party candidates and see if there are any you could wholeheartedly support. They won't win, it's true, but at least you'll be flexing your right to vote and show the two major parties that they're selections aren't good enough. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, AntiPotCrusader said: I don't want to give my consent to any amount of evil. If I don't feel passionate about either candidate it's a pointless statement to vote. I'm gonna be honest and say that that's bullshit. As a person of color and an immigrant, you are putting so many people's lives at risk by choosing not to vote. There will never be an ideal candidate, not even Bernie was ideal in all ways, but he was the best we had. Now that we're going into the prez elections, Hillary is the best we have. As much as I didn't want her as president to begin with, I do encourage people to vote for her because I don't want the alternative. Choosing not to vote is choosing to vote for Trump tbqmfh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,973 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Well, not voting won't achieve any of that. Politics isn't an all or nothing business, it's about compromise. Try telling that to Congress. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,997 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 1 minute ago, FATCAT said: Try telling that to Congress. That is a prime example of how ineffective being "all or nothing" is. Nothing gets done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,997 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mast said: I'm gonna be honest and say that that's bullshit. As a person of color and an immigrant, you are putting so many people's lives at risk by choosing not to vote. There will never be an ideal candidate, not even Bernie was ideal in all ways, but he was the best we had. Now that we're going into the prez elections, Hillary is the best we have. As much as I didn't want her as president to begin with, I do encourage people to vote for her because I don't want the alternative. Choosing not to vote is choosing to vote for Trump tbqmfh. Or voting third party. I know plenty of people on here are voting for a third party candidate.... but you all KNOW they won't win. And not voting for one of the two major candidates is basically voting for the one you like less. What most people are doing is voting for the one they like more OR dislike less. If you live in a swing state this is DANGEROUS. If you live in any other state.... feel free. It won't matter much tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bblough 312 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, AntiPotCrusader said: Changing the man/woman as the figurehead won't change much. It's the overall system that needs fixing. Oh.....how wrong you are. Nominations to the Supreme Court is VERY important. The next President will probably nominate 2 people to the court. Do you want Trump to be doing that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,997 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, bblough said: Oh.....how wrong you are. Nominations to the Supreme Court is VERY important. The next President will probably nominate 2 people to the court. Do you want Trump to be doing that? This. The future of this country and the type of society we will have is in the hands of either Clinton or Trump. How can some of you not panic at the thought of Trump appointing SCOTUS judges? It sends chills down my spine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 79,307 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 24 minutes ago, AntiPotCrusader said: This is my first election that I'm able to vote. And I choose to not vote. I shouldn't have to choose the lesser of two evils. You're helping no one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Or voting third party. I know plenty of people on here are voting for a third party candidate.... but you all KNOW they won't win. And not voting for one of the two major candidates is basically voting for the one you like less. What most people are doing is voting for the one they like more OR dislike less. If you live in a swing state this is DANGEROUS. If you live in any other state.... feel free. It won't matter much tbh. Honestly I'm here for third party candidates BUT ONLY if they actually commit to being a political party. That means being present in LOCAL offices and campaigns as well, not just showing up every four years when presidential elections are coming up. Jill Stein has never held a public office, so I don't even know why the Green party thinks they have the slightest chance with Jill when she doesn't have the political history and support to back her up. Had she been on any debates with other candidates, they would have destroyed her with her two failed attempts at Governor of Massachusetts and not having any experience and thus not being qualified for the job. I want the Green Party to actually start holding seats in state legislature and congress. /endrant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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