ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 1 hour ago, SKANK said: Not that I would ever vote Trump/Pence over Hilary/TBA, but my gut tells me it is a greater moral evil to run secret assassination programs, then it is to oppose gay rights. Maybe. It's a good thing that's not why I'm voting for her though. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JevyDuty 2,961 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 15 hours ago, Goosey said: Nope! Mike Pence is the "safe" choice for the Trump campaign. Mr. Pence has a great deal of experience. "While Pence is relatively soft-spoken compared with the other contenders for the number two spot, he would bring valuable political experience to balance out the ticket, and conservative bona fides that reportedly make him the favored pick of senior GOP officials. He would also run on a strong executive record, having overseen an economic recovery during his time as governor of Indiana, cutting taxes and expanding early education funding. Pence served six terms in Congress beginning in 2001, eventually rising to chair the conservative House Republican Study Committee and serve in leadership as the chairman of the House Republican Conference. While in Congress, Pence also served on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, giving him foreign policy and national security experience. " And Pence hasn't exactly been a complete centipede: Corrected! You quoted me and said so much but ended up saying nothing. After all you've said, my statement still stands: Another homophobic bigot. Oh and btw... the complete centipede walked that statement back already. He is now for the ban. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-muslim-ban/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JevyDuty 2,961 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 14 hours ago, SKANK said: I agree, but to be fair, if you are voting for Hillary than you are voting for someone who will no doubt take away people's right to have a trial by jury, using Bush/Obama's legal loop holes to execute American citizens and those suspected of terrorism via targeted drone strikes. Either way, the majority of Americans will be voting for a candidate who's conviction to civil rights is iffy. American citizens? You mean terrorists fighting abroad? I don't care about their papers... kill them all. The constitution doesn't apply in foreign soil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, Larry Hill said: You quoted me and said so much but ended up saying nothing. After all you've said, my statement still stands: Another homophobic bigot. Oh and btw... the complete centipede walked that statement back already. He is now for the ban. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-muslim-ban/ Don't forget he's also done plenty to make sure women practically have no access to safe abortion. “I sign this legislation with a prayer that God would continue to bless these precious children, mothers and families,” Pence said in a statement, after signing a bill designed to wreak havoc on the lives of mothers, their children, and their families. X LGBT, women, Muslims, who else can we add to this list? Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 36 minutes ago, Larry Hill said: American citizens? You mean terrorists fighting abroad? I don't care about their papers... kill them all. The constitution doesn't apply in foreign soil. Thank you for sharing your amoral abhorrent point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JevyDuty 2,961 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 37 minutes ago, SKANK said: Thank you for sharing your amoral abhorrent point of view. What do you suggest we do with them? Let's hear your kumbaya solution. Sometimes life doesn't give you a choice between good and bad; in which case you have to do what you have to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 14 hours ago, SKANK said: Not that I would ever vote Trump/Pence over Hilary/TBA, but my gut tells me it is a greater moral evil to run secret assassination programs, then it is to oppose gay rights. Considering Trump's plan to deal with ISIS includes "going after their families" and he thinks giving nuclear weapons to Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc (and using them ourselves) is a good idea...I mean, it's either tactical strikes where innocents are killed as well (which is awful, as with any act of violence) or all out genocide and possible nuclear warfare (obviously much, much worse). In this case, she literally is the lesser of two evils and by a wide margin if you ask me Glad to hear you'd never support Trump over Hillary though. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 4 hours ago, PartySick said: Considering Trump's plan to deal with ISIS includes "going after their families" and he thinks giving nuclear weapons to Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc (and using them ourselves) is a good idea...I mean, it's either tactical strikes where innocents are killed as well (which is awful, as with any act of violence) or all out genocide and possible nuclear warfare (obviously much, much worse). In this case, she literally is the lesser of two evils and by a wide margin if you ask me Glad to hear you'd never support Trump over Hillary though. Trump is truly horrific, but in reality his "go after the families" plan isn't all that different from what we already do. Trump just isn't using intentionally convoluted political double speak behind closed doors to hide his intentions the way Bush, Obama, and Hillary do. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, at this point that isn't something my conscious will allow me to do. 6 hours ago, Larry Hill said: What do you suggest we do with them? Let's hear your kumbaya solution. Sometimes life doesn't give you a choice between good and bad; in which case you have to do what you have to do. I suggest we not act like a nation of cowards who abandon their moral principles when confronted by the difficult reality of modern crime and terrorism. I suggest that people (and I use the word 'people' here loosely, 'knuckle-dragging savages' might be more appropriate) avoid using expressions like "kill them all," out of respect for the innocent children and civilians who die as a result of the assassination programs they are advocating for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, SKANK said: Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, at this point that isn't something my conscious will allow me to do. You have a point. I can respect that Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 8 hours ago, Larry Hill said: American citizens? You mean terrorists fighting abroad? I don't care about their papers... kill them all. The constitution doesn't apply in foreign soil. http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/04/abdulrahman-al-awlaki-obama-drone https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/19/q-us-targeted-killings-and-international-law FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Cersei 4 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 14 hours ago, Larry Hill said: kill them all. Worked for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowcrest 2,487 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I don't know why any of you want either of them for president, they are both trash. This race is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JevyDuty 2,961 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 20 hours ago, SKANK said: I suggest we not act like a nation of cowards who abandon their moral principles when confronted by the difficult reality of modern crime and terrorism. I suggest that people (and I use the word 'people' here loosely, 'knuckle-dragging savages' might be more appropriate) avoid using expressions like "kill them all," out of respect for the innocent children and civilians who die as a result of the assassination programs they are advocating for. What you are ostentatiously saying that we should do is to not do what we're currently doing. That's not a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,099 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Will this increase or decrease his popularity now? :fan: (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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