GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share Posted July 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Placebo said: She better flop with this mess. M.I.L.F. $ iTunes: #3 United States #3 Brazil #3 Turkey #4 Mexico #13 Russia #15 New Zealand #16 Australia #17 Canada #19 South Africa #21 Ireland #23 United Kingdom You wish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takemyhand 634 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This song is going to be a thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,962 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Surprised so many of you like it. This is utter trash. The song, the video, everything. Just another attempt to cover up a bad song with sexuality and cameos. Why you lot fall for it after so many examples of it is astonishing. I notice a lot of you saying that it's starting to grow on you. And that's exactly what the the music industry wants - for you to be taken in by a video that is, for better or worse, memorable, which will then lead to ironic feelings of a good song, which might turn into genuinely good feelings. That's partly why bad songs do so well on the charts. It's a fine art that the industry's got down to a tee. Fergie, listen. You're 41, married, with a 3-year-old. At your stage of life, the whole idea of songs and videos like this shouldn't be further from your thoughts. You should have developed more maturity with age and experience. Being married and becoming a mother turns a lot of women very serious and for good reason. There's a reason why a lot of women in the sex industry leave when they become married and/or have children. It's because they realise that the love one man can give them matters more than the validation from a million men and that their child is the most important thing in their life. This is why a lot of women drop an overtly sexual appearance/persona and start just being more honest and real. Other men's opinions of their looks no longer matter and they feel more confident in themselves through the love of a good man as well as the joys of motherhood. I wouldn't want to do a song and video like this at 26. The idea of doing it at 41 after marriage and a child is unthinkable. Oh, and the women who actually allowed their kids in on this video - shame on them. It's one thing saying that you're an attractive mother, but putting the visual of your kids there alongside such a sexual term effectively sexualises the kids and that's wrong. You can be a sexy mother without bringing the kids into it. Seriously, what was up with that woman miming breastfeeding? Put too much emphasis on the mother side of this term and you're going to creep people out. You've got to ask yourself...would a man of 41 do this in reverse? No. Because it would be tacky and undignified. So, why do so many women lower themselves to this standard and then fool themselves into thinking it's empowerment? A man would never find it empowering, why should a woman? Empowerment shouldn't be gender-specific, it should be a one-size-fits-all concept. Too many women confuse being sexual and having fun with being empowered. They're not the same things. Fergie is so much better than this, I didn't think she would be the type to do this. Why couldn't she just stick to the sexuality she displayed in her LA Love video? That's sexy without being trashy and she pulled it off very well for a woman of her age. But this is just too much. Everything about it is almost begging you to dislike it. You can't expect wide acceptance from a video that has a Kim K cameo in it (no offence to Kim, but this is not a cameo the public want to see, let's face it). The only plus points of it all is: 1) At least Fergie wrote the song. 2) There isn't borderline nudity, the women are surprisingly covered. 3) At least it made an effort of some sort and wasn't just another lazy video that's just one step above an audio clip. With any luck, this will get cancelled as the lead single and get scrapped off the album. If the whole album is of this level, she isn't making a comeback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky 9,565 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: The only plus points of it all is: 1) At least Fergie wrote the song. Is it really a plus point? Too many people here with moral superiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 21 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Surprised so many of you like it. This is utter trash. The song, the video, everything. Just another attempt to cover up a bad song with sexuality and cameos. Why you lot fall for it after so many examples of it is astonishing. I notice a lot of you saying that it's starting to grow on you. And that's exactly what the the music industry wants - for you to be taken in by a video that is, for better or worse, memorable, which will then lead to ironic feelings of a good song, which might turn into genuinely good feelings. That's partly why bad songs do so well on the charts. It's a fine art that the industry's got down to a tee. Fergie, listen. You're 41, married, with a 3-year-old. At your stage of life, the whole idea of songs and videos like this shouldn't be further from your thoughts. You should have developed more maturity with age and experience. Being married and becoming a mother turns a lot of women very serious and for good reason. There's a reason why a lot of women in the sex industry leave when they become married and/or have children. It's because they realise that the love one man can give them matters more than the validation from a million men and that their child is the most important thing in their life. This is why a lot of women drop an overtly sexual appearance/persona and start just being more honest and real. Other men's opinions of their looks no longer matter and they feel more confident in themselves through the love of a good man as well as the joys of motherhood. I wouldn't want to do a song and video like this at 26. The idea of doing it at 41 after marriage and a child is unthinkable. Oh, and the women who actually allowed their kids in on this video - shame on them. It's one thing saying that you're an attractive mother, but putting the visual of your kids there alongside such a sexual term effectively sexualises the kids and that's wrong. You can be a sexy mother without bringing the kids into it. Seriously, what was up with that woman miming breastfeeding? Put too much emphasis on the mother side of this term and you're going to creep people out. You've got to ask yourself...would a man of 41 do this in reverse? No. Because it would be tacky and undignified. So, why do so many women lower themselves to this standard and then fool themselves into thinking it's empowerment? A man would never find it empowering, why should a woman? Empowerment shouldn't be gender-specific, it should be a one-size-fits-all concept. Too many women confuse being sexual and having fun with being empowered. They're not the same things. Fergie is so much better than this, I didn't think she would be the type to do this. Why couldn't she just stick to the sexuality she displayed in her LA Love video? That's sexy without being trashy and she pulled it off very well for a woman of her age. But this is just too much. Everything about it is almost begging you to dislike it. You can't expect wide acceptance from a video that has a Kim K cameo in it (no offence to Kim, but this is not a cameo the public want to see, let's face it). The only plus points of it all is: 1) At least Fergie wrote the song. 2) There isn't borderline nudity, the women are surprisingly covered. 3) At least it made an effort of some sort and wasn't just another lazy video that's just one step above an audio clip. With any luck, this will get cancelled as the lead single and get scrapped off the album. If the whole album is of this level, she isn't making a comeback. It doesn't matter what age you are you can show off your sexy. Fergie is just having fun. Everyone has different taste. Not everyone wants to listen long songs with deep messages. It's July about to be the 4th in America. We are trying to have fun. The biggest problem of feminism is people who share views like you. As long as she is taking care of her child in a great way that the government sees fit. She's a great mother. Just because she's a mother does not mean she has to lay down and die. I'm sure Gaga will probably be sexting up in her late 30s and 40s. I hope the song continues to do well and that haters of the song continue to welp. Do your thing Fergy Ferg. There is nothing trashy about this video. It's showing sexy independent mothers out here doing their thing and being sexy while doing it. Not letting anyone spoil their fun with their 1960 ideas of what a woman should be. A woman can be anything and equal. That's feminism. A 41 man wouldn't do a video like this? Are you serious? There's still sexy models, rappers, and ball players getting themselves naked. It's 2016. Time to step up to the times. Typical post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thank you Gaga 146 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Oh my god last night at 2 in the morning I was blasting this song over and over on my headphones. My neighbour must hate me This is my new favourite song. Anaconda by Nicki Minaj is officially my second I believe in a glamorous life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Thank you Gaga said: Oh my god last night at 2 in the morning I was blasting this song over and over on my headphones. My neighbour must hate me This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 28 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Surprised so many of you like it. This is utter trash. The song, the video, everything. Just another attempt to cover up a bad song with sexuality and cameos. Why you lot fall for it after so many examples of it is astonishing. I notice a lot of you saying that it's starting to grow on you. And that's exactly what the the music industry wants - for you to be taken in by a video that is, for better or worse, memorable, which will then lead to ironic feelings of a good song, which might turn into genuinely good feelings. That's partly why bad songs do so well on the charts. It's a fine art that the industry's got down to a tee. Fergie, listen. You're 41, married, with a 3-year-old. At your stage of life, the whole idea of songs and videos like this shouldn't be further from your thoughts. You should have developed more maturity with age and experience. Being married and becoming a mother turns a lot of women very serious and for good reason. There's a reason why a lot of women in the sex industry leave when they become married and/or have children. It's because they realise that the love one man can give them matters more than the validation from a million men and that their child is the most important thing in their life. This is why a lot of women drop an overtly sexual appearance/persona and start just being more honest and real. Other men's opinions of their looks no longer matter and they feel more confident in themselves through the love of a good man as well as the joys of motherhood. I wouldn't want to do a song and video like this at 26. The idea of doing it at 41 after marriage and a child is unthinkable. Oh, and the women who actually allowed their kids in on this video - shame on them. It's one thing saying that you're an attractive mother, but putting the visual of your kids there alongside such a sexual term effectively sexualises the kids and that's wrong. You can be a sexy mother without bringing the kids into it. Seriously, what was up with that woman miming breastfeeding? Put too much emphasis on the mother side of this term and you're going to creep people out. You've got to ask yourself...would a man of 41 do this in reverse? No. Because it would be tacky and undignified. So, why do so many women lower themselves to this standard and then fool themselves into thinking it's empowerment? A man would never find it empowering, why should a woman? Empowerment shouldn't be gender-specific, it should be a one-size-fits-all concept. Too many women confuse being sexual and having fun with being empowered. They're not the same things. Fergie is so much better than this, I didn't think she would be the type to do this. Why couldn't she just stick to the sexuality she displayed in her LA Love video? That's sexy without being trashy and she pulled it off very well for a woman of her age. But this is just too much. Everything about it is almost begging you to dislike it. You can't expect wide acceptance from a video that has a Kim K cameo in it (no offence to Kim, but this is not a cameo the public want to see, let's face it). The only plus points of it all is: 1) At least Fergie wrote the song. 2) There isn't borderline nudity, the women are surprisingly covered. 3) At least it made an effort of some sort and wasn't just another lazy video that's just one step above an audio clip. With any luck, this will get cancelled as the lead single and get scrapped off the album. If the whole album is of this level, she isn't making a comeback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo Ga 15,339 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 26 minutes ago, BrianxRyan said: It doesn't matter what age you are you can show off your sexy. Fergie is just having fun. Everyone has different taste. Not everyone wants to listen long songs with deep messages. It's July about to be the 4th in America. We are trying to have fun. The biggest problem of feminism is people who share views like you. As long as she is taking care of her child in a great way that the government sees fit. She's a great mother. Just because she's a mother does not mean she has to lay down and die. I'm sure Gaga will probably be sexting up in her late 30s and 40s. I hope the song continues to do well and that haters of the song continue to welp. Do your thing Fergy Ferg. There is nothing trashy about this video. It's showing sexy independent mothers out here doing their thing and being sexy while doing it. Not letting anyone spoil their fun with their 1960 ideas of what a woman should be. A woman can be anything and equal. That's feminism. A 41 man wouldn't do a video like this? Are you serious? There's still sexy models, rappers, and ball players getting themselves naked. It's 2016. Time to step up to the times. Typical post. YES. x1000. Fergie SLAYED this. If anyone is looking for music with a deep message they are looking in the wrong place. Fergie does what she does well. 🤖⚡️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Catchy pop song Something we needed since 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 And stop acting like every song has to be a deep-meaning song Sometimes we just need simple, catchy tunes Can't with some of the Little Critics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,962 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Miky said: Is it really a plus point? Kinda. Because at least she isn't being a puppet who's doing stuff she isn't comfortable with. Some popstars just have a lead single handed to them that they don't even play a part in and it's usually terrible when that's the case. At least if they played a role in its production, it makes me feel like they at least have some control, even if it's not a direction I like. 59 minutes ago, BrianxRyan said: It doesn't matter what age you are you can show off your sexy. Fergie is just having fun. Everyone has different taste. Not everyone wants to listen long songs with deep messages. It's July about to be the 4th in America. We are trying to have fun. The biggest problem of feminism is people who share views like you. As long as she is taking care of her child in a great way that the government sees fit. She's a great mother. Just because she's a mother does not mean she has to lay down and die. I'm sure Gaga will probably be sexting up in her late 30s and 40s. I hope the song continues to do well and that haters of the song continue to welp. Do your thing Fergy Ferg. There is nothing trashy about this video. It's showing sexy independent mothers out here doing their thing and being sexy while doing it. Not letting anyone spoil their fun with their 1960 ideas of what a woman should be. A woman can be anything and equal. That's feminism. A 41 man wouldn't do a video like this? Are you serious? There's still sexy models, rappers, and ball players getting themselves naked. It's 2016. Time to step up to the times. Typical post. The problem is, women can go through negative repercussions for showing their sexuality, mainly being that when they do it, they are reduced to nothing more than pieces of meat, their intelligence and characters erased, and they get disrespected. And the more sexualised you are, the higher the likelihood of this happening. I have no problem with having fun and I'm not asking for a deep message, I just want decent music. Why is it that any criticism of a "fun" song cannot go beyond "it's just meant to be fun" in its defence? I can't find a song fun if it's bad, sorry. How are my feminist views part of the problem? I'm wanting women to be held to the same standards as men and to be treated respectfully. What's so problematic about that? Maybe the biggest problem of feminism is that the women are split into tribes and neither side can get the other to agree. The kids in the video aren't her kids, they're the other models. Maybe they are good mothers in every other way, I don't know, but on this occasion, they made a mistake, that's all I'm saying. Nowhere did I say that she has to lay down and die, just that she doesn't have to be so trashy with her expressions. I have no problem if Gaga wants to show sexuality in her later years, so long as she's classy about it and puts good music with it. "Sexy, independent mothers doing their thing?" If that "thing" is prancing around like sex objects for the male gaze, then I think the term "doing your thing" means something very different in my world. My idea of women is not a "1960's idea of what a woman should be" (although that was upgraded from my usual critique of a 1950's view - I must be getting more progessive!) And I'm also advocating for women being "anything and equal," but as long as that "everything" is as dignified as men, otherwise, she won't be equal. Men simply do not treat women with respect when they put forward a type of sexuality that cheapens them. Yes, I'm serious. A 41 year old man would not demean himself like this. What, making a video called DILF Money? Making the fact he's a father the most attractive thing about him? Flaunting himself in underwear? Making lyrics about how his good looks and fashion sense make him powerful? Don't make me laugh. Men exert power through their songs by keeping their clothes on and bragging about their intelligence, sexual partners, bank balance (through doing non sexual things) and business sense. They don't brag about their hair and nails being on fleek. 43 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: Is that all you can say? I don't mind disagreement, just give me a good argument. 32 minutes ago, Robo Ga said: YES. x1000. Fergie SLAYED this. If anyone is looking for music with a deep message they are looking in the wrong place. Fergie does what she does well. 23 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: And stop acting like every song has to be a deep-meaning song Sometimes we just need simple, catchy tunes Can't with some of the Little Critics I'm not asking for a deep, meaningful song, just a good song. Fergie has made good, fun music before and it's not rubbish like this. I think we have every right to be critics when this is the job of music artists: serve a song up to us and let us give our opinion on it. If we didn't have an opinion on it, there would be no purpose in putting it out at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just now, StrawberryBlond said: I'm not asking for a deep, meaningful song, just a good song. Fergie has made good, fun music before and it's not rubbish like this. I think we have every right to be critics when this is the job of music artists: serve a song up to us and let us give our opinion on it. If we didn't have an opinion on it, there would be no purpose in putting it out at all. of course, i respect everyone's opinion. but someone here got too far honey you aint employed in metacritics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,962 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 1 minute ago, MaryJaneHolland said: of course, i respect everyone's opinion. but someone here got too far honey you aint employed in metacritics The "I respect everyone's opinions" line that always implies "except yours" at the end, what a cliche. There is a "too far" when it comes to giving an opinion on music? And I'm not a professional critic, so what? That means I can't make indepth analysis of music? I'm a music lover, this is what I do. Can you imagine if no one had an opinion on music? Nothing would get sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: The problem is, women can go through negative repercussions for showing their sexuality, mainly being that when they do it, they are reduced to nothing more than pieces of meat, their intelligence and characters erased, and they get disrespected. And the more sexualised you are, the higher the likelihood of this happening. I have no problem with having fun and I'm not asking for a deep message, I just want decent music. Why is it that any criticism of a "fun" song cannot go beyond "it's just meant to be fun" in its defence? I can't find a song fun if it's bad, sorry. How are my feminist views part of the problem? I'm wanting women to be held to the same standards as men and to be treated respectfully. What's so problematic about that? Maybe the biggest problem of feminism is that the women are split into tribes and neither side can get the other to agree. The kids in the video aren't her kids, they're the other models. Maybe they are good mothers in every other way, I don't know, but on this occasion, they made a mistake, that's all I'm saying. Nowhere did I say that she has to lay down and die, just that she doesn't have to be so trashy with her expressions. I have no problem if Gaga wants to show sexuality in her later years, so long as she's classy about it and puts good music with it. "Sexy, independent mothers doing their thing?" If that "thing" is prancing around like sex objects for the male gaze, then I think the term "doing your thing" means something very different in my world. My idea of women is not a "1960's idea of what a woman should be" (although that was upgraded from my usual critique of a 1950's view - I must be getting more progessive!) And I'm also advocating for women being "anything and equal," but as long as that "everything" is as dignified as men, otherwise, she won't be equal. Men simply do not treat women with respect when they put forward a type of sexuality that cheapens them. Yes, I'm serious. A 41 year old man would not demean himself like this. What, making a video called DILF Money? Making the fact he's a father the most attractive thing about him? Flaunting himself in underwear? Making lyrics about how his good looks and fashion sense make him powerful? Don't make me laugh. Men exert power through their songs by keeping their clothes on and bragging about their intelligence, sexual partners, bank balance (through doing non sexual things) and business sense. They don't brag about their hair and nails being on fleek. You already said this before in another thread. Let women live. You're not doing anything, but hurting feminism. You want women to be more equal to men, but yet you opened your mouth about Fergie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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