49 Celebrities Honor the 49 Orlando Victims(Directed by Ryan Murphy)

[Didymus 34,380]

16 minutes ago, AJH219 said:

Why the fck can't people just appreciate this nice montage instead of finding a way to bitch about it? I truly feel sorry for people who live their lives with such bitterness that a tribute to the victims of the worst mass shooting n American history causes such angst. We bitch about not getting any empathy from anyone. Then when we do get it, we bitch that it is disingenuous. So pathetic, embarrassing, and honestly one of the reasons why the modern day gay community low key disgusts me. Get over yourselves  

What's really pathetic and embarrassing is you reducing people's genuine feelings to unjustified bitching and moaning so you can pass it off as unnecessary to seriously discuss. Is that really an example of a non-bitter lifestyle that sets a good example for a community that is supposed to be tolerant and inclusive and progressing towards a healthier society?

[AJH219 4,448]

2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

What's really pathetic and embarrassing is you reducing people's genuine feelings to unjustified bitching and moaning so you can pass it off as unnecessary to seriously discuss. Is that really an example of a non-bitter lifestyle that sets a good example for a community that is supposed to be tolerant and inclusive and progressing towards a healthier society?

It is people like you who feel the need to complain about even the smallest bit of support that are plaguing our community, not people like me. But, your response was typical and expected so no shock there

[Didymus 34,380]

Just now, AJH219 said:

It is people like you who feel the need to complain about even the smallest bit of support that are plaguing our community, not people like me. But, your response was typical and expected so no shock there

I didn't complain, I expressed my feelings in a very considerate way, showing support to the families and friends involved in the tragedy that it is. I believe I brought up a good point. The same people who supposedly care turn out to be the same people who only choose to care when a news event is already being discussed everywhere. I don't think that's right. Is that complaining, even?

Support can manifest in different ways. Being hung up on one event and ignoring tons of others because they don't make for a delicious sentimental news story and calling that unproblematic is not attractive to me.

And if it was so typical and expected then there was no reason for your overly accusatory, bitterly negative response in the first place.

[AJH219 4,448]

9 minutes ago, Didymus said:

I didn't complain, I expressed my feelings in a very considerate way, showing support to the families and friends involved in the tragedy that it is. I believe I brought up a good point. The same people who supposedly care turn out to be the same people who only choose to care when a news event is already being discussed everywhere. I don't think that's right. Is that complaining, even?

Support can manifest in different ways. Being hung up on one event and ignoring tons of others because they don't make for a delicious sentimental news story and calling that unproblematic is not attractive to me.

And if it was so typical and expected then there was no reason for your overly accusatory, bitterly negative response in the first place.

I don't see any problem here though, this event was worthy of all the attention it got. I truly think it deserved more and I was honestly a bit pressed it was regulated to the back burner of the news after a few days. Maybe I'm missing some key points, idk. I've been particularly salty about the entire way this event has been treated so maybe I'm being blinded by what appears to be an act of support when that's not what it is. Who knows? 

[Didymus 34,380]

2 minutes ago, AJH219 said:

I don't see any problem here though, this event was worthy of all the attention it got.

And what makes it more deserving than other tragedies that go unnoticed exactly? It's not a competition. It shouldn't be.

2 minutes ago, AJH219 said:

Maybe I'm missing some key points, idk. I've been particularly salty about the entire way this event has been treated so maybe I'm being blinded by what appears to be an act of support when that's not what it is. Who knows? 

I never said it wasn't genuine. You can be genuine ànd selective without realizing why exactly you care about certain things but not for others.

Doesn't mean it's not a problem though. That's all I wanted to say.

[AJH219 4,448]

2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

And what makes it more deserving than other tragedies that go unnoticed exactly? It's not a competition. It shouldn't be.

I never said it wasn't genuine. You can be genuine ànd selective without realizing why exactly you care about certain things but not for others.

Doesn't mean it's not a problem though. That's all I wanted to say.

The bold would be my response to your question above. I can't really explain why I care more about this than I did Christina Grimmie's murder or the kid being killed by an alligator or any other event recently. Well....I suspect I do know why but actually admitting it would open up a can of worms that I'm, cowardly, not ready to deal with yet. 

[Didymus 34,380]

1 minute ago, AJH219 said:

The bold would be my response to your question above. I can't really explain why I care more about this than I did Christina Grimmie's murder or the kid being killed by an alligator or any other event recently. Well....I suspect I do know why but actually admitting it would open up a can of worms that I'm, cowardly, not ready to deal with yet. 

It's not just those obvious examples you encountered on GGD. What about the shooting in the gay bar in Mexico a week before Orlando that only one news source (a Mexican one) talked about at the time?

Obviously you're not to blame for not knowing about it, but I think if we're honest with ourselves we have to admit we genuinely don't care that much about a similar thing happening in Mexico, just like barely any Westerners cared about the Lebanon terrorist attacks like they did about the Paris ones though they were only a day apart.

That's why I wrote I get a bit bitter when people act like we should do things like this celeb tribute video because "we care". We care when we choose to care and a lot of it has to do with peer pressure. Look at GGD after these things. Already judging celebrity's entire careers when they don't see a message of support within minutes. Same dynamic in everyone's lives.

Maybe we should stop and think for a second: who really needs our support right now? Is it the families and friends of the victims? That can't be, because then we'd have to support millions of people all over the world if we're being fair. And do they need us posting on Facebook, really? Do we have to pretend we're aware of what these people are going through? Do we have to paint the victim as fallen hero's when we didn't know them, all to show that "we care"?

I just wonder if there are better ways to show that same care. I don't know which, but I'm getting fed up with watching senseless tragedies and people "supporting" their victims go by like fashion trends. When are we going to have discussions about what we can all do, as individuals, to bring about positive change? I feel like people nowadays think they "did their piece" when they change their Facebook pic to an LGBT+ flag tint. Getting a post about kindness retweeted is considered a productive contribution. Walking in a protest march and then slouching back in your couch is now equivalent to being an activist. These things are making us lazier, and I know I'm right now also contributing to the same ineffective blabbering but I want to do something different and I want to learn how, and I'm hoping for others to understand that and think about it with me.

[AJH219 4,448]

3 minutes ago, Didymus said:

It's not just those obvious examples you encountered on GGD. What about the shooting in the gay bar in Mexico a week before Orlando that only one news source (a Mexican one) talked about at the time?

Obviously you're not to blame for not knowing about it, but I think if we're honest with ourselves we have to admit we genuinely don't care that much about a similar thing happening in Mexico, just like barely any Westerners cared about the Lebanon terrorist attacks like they did about the Paris ones though they were only a day apart.

That's why I wrote I get a bit bitter when people act like we should do things like this celeb tribute video because "we care". We care when we choose to care and a lot of it has to do with peer pressure. Look at GGD after these things. Already judging celebrity's entire careers when they don't see a message of support within minutes. Same dynamic in everyone's lives.

Maybe we should stop and think for a second: who really needs our support right now? Is it the families and friends of the victims? That can't be, because then we'd have to support millions of people all over the world if we're being fair. And do they need us posting on Facebook, really? Do we have to pretend we're aware of what these people are going through? Do we have to paint the victim as fallen hero's when we didn't know them, all to show that "we care"?

I just wonder if there are better ways to show that same care. I don't know which, but I'm getting fed up with watching senseless tragedies and people "supporting" their victims go by like fashion trends. When are we going to have discussions about what we can all do, as individuals, to bring about positive change? I feel like people nowadays think they "did their piece" when they change their Facebook pic to an LGBT+ flag tint. Getting a post about kindness retweeted is considered a productive contribution. Walking in a protest march and then slouching back in your couch is now equivalent to being an activist. These things are making us lazier, and I know I'm right now also contributing to the same ineffective blabbering but I want to do something different and I want to learn how, and I'm hoping for others to understand that and think about it with me.

Very good food for thought. I agree, entirely, with your final paragraph. I have some not-so-nice thoughts on this recent resurgence in kindness advocacy by a certain someone, but I'll leave that for a more appropriate discussion  Even though I like this montage, I also agree we need to do less talking and start taking more action, it just seems that no one wants to actually take the initiative. Holding hands and singing kumbaya ain't the solution, despite what the majority thinks. 

[Whispering 18,865]

A heart wrenching tribute. I'm thankful to Ryan Murphy for making this tribute and to those who gave their time and energy to remember the victims of this senseless tragedy. My thoughts are with the families and friends of the victims...individuals who had so many that loved and cherished them deeply. 

 

“The hate that stole these 49 individuals from all those who loved them has been allowed to flourish in our country for too long,” said Ryan Murphy, who directed the video, in a statement reported by Entertainment Weekly. “No person is born hating another, and we have an obligation as Americans to stand up against prejudice and bigotry that would incite violence against someone simply for who they are.”

 

 

[JbGaga 2,261]

On 6/30/2016 at 4:29 AM, T E A said:

couldn't you see that some of them were almost unable to hold their tears back? 

these people paying tribute to such a horrifying event and trying to advocate a relevent political issue (gun control) deserve more respect for their efforts.

your comment made me mad.

Do i care that some of you cried watching this? No not really...

We have all different opinions. You will get over it. Hopefully

And no gun control is not relevant to the issue of Islamic Terrorism in the us

[crisTEAne 21,059]

5 minutes ago, JbGaga said:

Do i care that some of you cried watching this? No not really...

We have all different opinions. You will get over it. Hopefully

And no gun control is not relevant to the issue of Islamic Terrorism in the us

okay... i think this comment of yours speaks volumes.

[JbGaga 2,261]

Just now, T E A said:

okay... i think this comment of yours speaks volumes.

I dont... Its not like you care what I have to say.

Why do you even comment on my posts?  I don't even talk to you...