Rihanna - 'Sledgehammer'

[SchwineLove 1,374]

2 hours ago, just4fun said:

The article you posted the writer writes, 'she work hard to sing it as the demo' as an opinion. It's not quoted from Rihanna or Sia or the song's producer.  It's the opinon of the writer. ( I wish people on this site learned to distinguish fact from opinion on the articles they post.)

Of course I know Sia wrote Diamonds. Which is why I made the comparison in the first place. Rihanna has always had a nasal sound with the slurring of words. It's a basic island sound you can hear it in different places on her discography going back to 2005 Music of the Sun. So it fit very well when she sang Diamonds which incorporated those technique in one song. However when Chandelier came out Sia decided to use a very much copied island accent to copy Rihanna's sound. You can hear the accent in her first verse of the song leading up to its chorus. Sia is not dumb she knows what sells,  and her second big hit in the US is another island sounding song (without the accent this time) Cheap Thrills, she even put Sean Paul on the remix. At this point saying one sounds like the other is ridiculous. They obviously respect each other with how often they work together. Sia is not out there saying she sounds like me ( or wearing green wigs and riding mechanical horses) and neither is Rihanna. What happen when these two collaborate is really genius. 

PS Rihanna would have sang the hell out of Cheap Thrills. It would be on its 11th week at number one. 

-_- hhh you said it is ridiculous and yet you contradictively claimed Sia copied Rihanna. That doesn't sound nice of you actually, do you know that? -_-

Maybe this is better source, actually it's the article that I actually read about it first http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/21/how-a-song-written-by-sia-furler-becomes-a-hit/?_r=1 Sia said herself that she thought that it was her singing when the Rihanna version being played, thinking the producer tried to trick her. Well maybe what I said first is not too accurate.

[Brian Ryan 1,468]

I love it. I hear all this talk about Sia. It doesn't remind me of her at all. She wrote a good song. This was made for Rihanna though. Like Star Trek and Rihanna go hand and hand. I hope it gets a video. Another day. Another new RiRi song. Why is it not on Itunes yet?

Ps, that single cover is probably her best yet!

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

Shes singing like Sia, almost totally even in the vibrato

I like the song itself a lot, especially the... chorus/postchorus but that kind of bothers me tbh. There's no reason for "Rihanna" herself to be singing it at all.

 

[Katsuki Bakugo 9,788]

12 hours ago, symphonia said:

Kinda ridiculous to hear Rihanna imitating Sia's vocals

Diamonds says hi bish. 

[KARMA 1,022]

I think it fits the movie theme perfectly 

oh, and Sia should be called the queen of songwriting

 

[Brian Ryan 1,468]

13 hours ago, symphonia said:

Kinda ridiculous to hear Rihanna imitating Sia's vocals

She sounds way better than any Sia I've heard. I'm loving Rihanna's new vocal coach.

[andy232000 12,206]

13 hours ago, ViviLittleM said:

Sia could be nominated with "Unforgettable" (Finding Dory) and Sledgehammer (Star Trek Beyond) at the Oscars!

unforgettable was not written by her as far as I know, it was a cover that Ellen asked her to do. She can be nominated for the grammys and Oscars for "Try Everything" from Zootopia, "Waving Goodbye" from The Neon Demon and now this song too nevertheless 

edit: "Written by Irving Gordon, "Unforgettable" was made famous by Nat King Cole in the 1950s, but the song won a Grammy in 1992" yeah, its a cover not written by her

[wahkeenasitka 1,995]

OoooOOOoooooOOOOooooohhh a new Star Trek movie! Yeehaw! 

The song is alright. Definitely sounds like Sia. 

Don't get me wrong, Rihanna is a talented vocalist. She's got a good voice, but dang - I wish she would write her own songs. Since she doesn't, I have a hard time respecting her as an artist. 

[thatfoxyfeeling 13,041]

I don't get why Sia just didn't do this herself since Rihanna sounds like she is imitating her.

[Hellspont 1,468]

It sounds awful, terrible mixing.

[Andrew Warhola 12,992]

6 hours ago, just4fun said:

The article you posted the writer writes, 'she work hard to sing it as the demo' as an opinion. It's not quoted from Rihanna or Sia or the song's producer.  It's the opinon of the writer. ( I wish people on this site learned to distinguish fact from opinion on the articles they post.)

Howard: When you heard Rihanna's version of it, you were at first confused 'cause you thought it was you.

Sia: I did, it was insane.

https://youtu.be/2Zi6UeJ0Les?t=18m21s

 

Here's the earliest version of Diamonds, you can listen for yourself.

https://youtu.be/UTKkC60hVVs?t=1m53s

 

9 hours ago, just4fun said:

Well you mean Sia sounds like Rihanna. We've been listening to Rihanna a lot longer

a) Who is "we"?

b) Your argument is based on the premise that Rihanna had more exposure and therefore the sound is hers, even though there's actual proof that Sia sang that way first. Perfhaps not exactly the same but the vocals on Diamonds sound a lot more similar to Sia's than Rihanna's on anything she had put out prior to that song's release. There are obviously some adjustments, because when writing songs for other artists, Sia usually takes into consideration who's supposed to be singing it afterwards.

 

I agree that Chandelier and Cheap Thrills don't sound like the music Sia used to sing before she became extremely popular, but that's partly due to the production and the lyrics. The vocals are Sia's, any Rihanna influence on those songs is nothing compared to Sia's on both Diamonds and Sledgehammer (the latter especially, lacks the "island sound" you were referring to in one of your posts).

Anyway, it shouldn't even matter, because Sia gave her consent and that's the only thing that matters, this is a non-issue.

[Lion Heart 15,041]

Meh not really feeling it.

[GloriousRomance 148]

idk why, but whenever anyone says they can only hear Rihanna copying Sia in this song, i just think of Riri sitting at home in Barbados beside a broken piano reading Goosebumps thinking:

[FGGrayson 9,670]

where's youtube? i dont use tidal/spotify

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

1 hour ago, Andrew Warhola said:

Howard: When you heard Rihanna's version of it, you were at first confused 'cause you thought it was you.

Sia: I did, it was insane.

https://youtu.be/2Zi6UeJ0Les?t=18m21s

 

Here's the earliest version of Diamonds, you can listen for yourself.

https://youtu.be/UTKkC60hVVs?t=1m53s

 

a) Who is "we"?

b) Your argument is based on the premise that Rihanna had more exposure and therefore the sound is hers, even though there's actual proof that Sia sang that way first. Perfhaps not exactly the same but the vocals on Diamonds sound a lot more similar to Sia's than Rihanna's on anything she had put out prior to that song's release. There are obviously some adjustments, because when writing songs for other artists, Sia usually takes into consideration who's supposed to be singing it afterwards.

 

I agree that Chandelier and Cheap Thrills don't sound like the music Sia used to sing before she became extremely popular, but that's partly due to the production and the lyrics. The vocals are Sia's, any Rihanna influence on those songs is nothing compared to Sia's on both Diamonds and Sledgehammer (the latter especially, lacks the "island sound" you were referring to in one of your posts).

Anyway, it shouldn't even matter, because Sia gave her consent and that's the only thing that matters, this is a non-issue

Rihanna has been singing like that for years. Her voice has grown and progressed since she started at 16. Do Sia and her sound alike? Yes, but if you listen to the progression of her voice from Rated-R then TTT and finally Unapologetic. Songs like Te Amo, Hard, MadHouse, Wait is Over, all have parts where she sounds like she did in Diamonds. She didn't go from SOS to Diamonds overnight. She has hit all those notes and tones before.

Where as Sia never spoke with a carribean accent, but decided to dawn one on Chandelier.  

Anyways none of this matters. Next Year Sia and Rihanna will be collecting their Oscars.