Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Florin said: You can find the some in my post. So read first and then accuse semeone that he is biggoted when you clearly ignore facts and reality as everyone can see on another post you made on the same page. You do know that I was quoting you? What a ****ing idiot. 3 minutes ago, Florin said: Yes. Thats the way. Continue to ignore the facts. It's not fact it's gossip from 'gaystarnews' which is probably less ****ing reliable than the sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, Saint Laurent said: You do know that I was quoting you? What a ****ing idiot. It's bot fact it's gossip from 'gaystarnews' which is probably less ****ing reliable than the sun. Please learn to have a decent conversation. I didnt call you names and you already called me a biggot and an idiot. In the meantime you ignored every point I made. Hm, to think about it, you clearly are from Brexit camp. Continue to ignore the facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, Florin said: Please learn to have a decent conversation. I didnt call you names and you already called me a biggot and an idiot. In the meantime you ignored every point I made. Hm, to think about it, you clearly are from Brexit camp. Continue to ignore the facts. That's because you haven't made a point, you've been rambling on like a blithering idiot. If you would like to make a point, I'd be quite happy to debate it in an intelligent way. Until you have made a point, however, I will continue to call you an idiot as the result of, what I deem to be, idiotic statements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said: I live in this country and have actually never once witnessed homophobia or the use of homophobic language. We're a very tolerant nation and to suggest people are taking the stance that is article is suggesting is ludicrous and quite obviously a lie. Stop swallowing articles from gossip magazines and regarding them as fact or politically factual. You living in the country doesn't mean you know what is happening in every corner of it, every single day. Your experience is not everyone's experience. You have football hooligans and far right groups marching and chanting and you think homophobes and racists don't exist in the UK. lol The guy came out with his real name to tell the story and he reported it to police and you just called him a liar, just because it suits you. Are you gonna deny this too? http://news.sky.com/story/1718374/hate-crime-reports-up-57-percent-in-brexit-aftermath FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, YourSweet666 said: You living in the country doesn't mean you know what is happening in every corner of it, every single day. Your experience is not everyone's experience. You have football hooligans and far right groups marching and chanting and you think homophobes and racists don't exist in the UK. lol The guy came out with his real name to tell the story and he reported it to police and you just called him a liar, just because it suits you. Are you gonna deny this too? http://news.sky.com/story/1718374/hate-crime-reports-up-57-percent-in-brexit-aftermath We don't have football hooligans. We don't have far right groups marching anywhere. I didn't say racist/homophobic people don't exist, but not every leave voter is racist/homophobic and not every racist/homophobic incident is caused by the result of the referendum I'm very reluctant to believe these stories with no evidence other than the statements of bitter remain voters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, Saint Laurent said: That's because you haven't made a point, you've been rambling on like a blithering idiot. If you would like to make a point, I'd be quite happy to debate it in an intelligent way. Until you have made a point, however, I will continue to call you an idiot as the result of, what I deem to be, idiotic statements. Wtf? I simply destroyed every point you made. immigration was at the bottom of many peoples list- was not and you can clearly see from the reactions and the increase in hate crimes. The majority of the electorate who voted leave was not comprised solely of old people, nor was it solely comprised of xenophobic people. - solely? Its a fact that a big majority of the old people voted leave and a big majority of the young people voted to stay, like its a fact that some politicians played with the xenophobic feelings of your people during the campaign. Just because you ignore it or didnt inform yourself, it doesnt mean that you are right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, Florin said: Wtf? I simply destroyed every point you made. immigration was at the bottom of many peoples list- was not and you can clearly see from the reactions and the increase in hate crimes. The majority of the electorate who voted leave was not comprised solely of old people, nor was it solely comprised of xenophobic people. - solely? Its a fact that a big majority of the old people voted leave and a big majority of the young people voted to stay, like its a fact that some politicians played with the xenophobic feelings of your people during the campaign. Just because you ignore it or didnt inform yourself, it doesnt mean that you are right. It was at the bottom of many people's list, my household of three people all voted to leave and all did so in a bid to regain parliamentary sovereignty, not because we hate immigrants. I'm currently reading a law degree and so am more aware than most people about the supremacy of EU law. If you're trying to insinuate that every person voted to leave because of immigration you are deluded. You have taken my words totally out of context I'm afraid. The point I was making was that it is rude and ignorant to generalise because not all of the electorate are 'xenophobic old english farts'. Frankly I think it's laughable that you thing that you have 'destroyed' all of my arguments, because you still have not made a single point worthy of debate. All you've actually done is say 'ur wrong blah blah blah' because you clearly lack the intellect to form your own argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 any other time and england votes to stay but there was probably already a strong desire to leave the EU but there was enough apprehension abouot the uncertainties to keep them in the EU. then the refugee thing happens and anyone who had apprehension about leaving and was on the fence about it, were persuaded by the fears of refugees . anti-refugee wasnt the entirety of why they voted leave but i think it might have been the issue that swung the vote in the way of leave 47 pages i'lm probably not saying anything that hasnt already been said lol I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, Saint Laurent said: We don't have football hooligans. We don't have far right groups marching anywhere. lmao ok now you are lying. British hooligans are known around the world and not in a good way. You don't have EDL? Britain First? BNP? it's clear that lot of bigots have come out of the woodwork and hate crimes have risen after Brexit, you can't deny that. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/brexit-europe-far-right-rightwing-extremists-politics-terrorism FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 minute ago, YourSweet666 said: lmao ok now you are lying. British hooligans are known around the world and not in a good way. You don't have EDL? Britain First? BNP? it's clear that lot of bigots have come out of the woodwork and hate crimes have risen after Brexit, you can't deny that. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/brexit-europe-far-right-rightwing-extremists-politics-terrorism Not sure what hooliganism has to do with this debate but anyway, I'm not personally aware of any hooliganism. Correct, like most modern countries we do have far right political parties, I'm sure you have them too, none of them have parliamentary power and they are definitely not marching to the gates of Westminster, as you incorrectly suggested. I didn't deny it once, I took issue with the fact that we are, all 17 million of us, being tarred with the same brush. It's ignorant and bizarre frankly. I'll reiterate the point I made before, some muslim people are terrorists, is it wrong to condemn the entire religion? Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said: It was at the bottom of many people's list, my household of three people all voted to leave and all did so in a bid to regain parliamentary sovereignty, not because we hate immigrants. I'm currently reading a law degree and so am more aware than most people about the supremacy of EU law. If you're trying to insinuate that every person voted to leave because of immigration you are deluded. You have taken my words totally out of context I'm afraid. The point I was making was that it is rude and ignorant to generalise because not all of the electorate are 'xenophobic old english farts'. Frankly I think it's laughable that you thing that you have 'destroyed' all of my arguments, because you still have not made a single point worthy of debate. All you've actually done is say 'ur wrong blah blah blah' because you clearly lack the intellect to form your own argument. Yes, continue to call people by names for something that you think I insinuate. You and your 3 people you know maybe voted for a good acceptable reason. A lot of people voted for the wrong reason. Every person? Solely? No. Why are you still using words like this? I never said something like that or insinuate. However there are statistics on how people voted. Find them. You will find that the mojority of young people or educated people voted to stay. I think its laughable that you think that you have such a superior intellect and pretend you are informed and yet you always return to you and your 3 people. There are a lot of statistics outhere about Brexit vote. Inform yourself first before making your case, like educated people usually do. This isnt about you and your 3 people. Please learn to control yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Florin said: Yes, continue to call people by names for something that you think I insinuate. You and your 3 people you know maybe voted for a good acceptable reason. A lot of people voted for the wrong reason. Every person? Solely? No. Why are you still using words like this? I never said something like that or insinuate. However there are statistics on how people voted. Find them. You will find that the mojority of young people or educated people voted to stay. I think its laughable that you think that you have such a superior intellect and pretend you are informed and yet you always return to you and your 3 people. There are a lot of statistics outhere about Brexit vote. Inform yourself first before making your case, like educated people usually do. This isnt about you and your 3 people. Please learn to control yourself. Some people voted for the wrong reason, some people voted for the right reason, it's actually you who is unwilling to accept that and instead try to insinuate that all of the people who voted to leave are uneducated/racist/xenophobic/old. Okay first of all I have seen the statistics, but I'm sure you haven't going on what you're saying. There is absolutely no indication of people's level of education in the polling results. Secondly, I think you'll actually find that the majority of young people didn't vote at all. Not to mention, we have never once discussed how certain groups voted and I've never once said that the majority of older people voted to leave so wtf are you actually talking about? 'Yet you always return to you and your three people', well actually this is the first time I've mentioned them and I mentioned them because I'm 19, another is 48 and the third is 68. It was used as a demonstration to show you that it was not just old people who voted to leave I'm very well informed and well educated thank you, the same can't be said for you. Please retire from your bigotry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, Saint Laurent said: Some people voted for the wrong reason, some people voted for the right reason, it's actually you who is unwilling to accept that and instead try to insinuate that all of the people who voted to leave are uneducated/racist/xenophobic/old. Okay first of all I have seen the statistics, but I'm sure you haven't going on what you're saying. There is absolutely no indication of people's level of education in the polling results. Secondly, I think you'll actually find that the majority of young people didn't vote at all. Not to mention, we have never once discussed how certain groups voted and I've never once said that the majority of older people voted to leave so wtf are you actually talking about? 'Yet you always return to you and your three people', well actually this is the first time I've mentioned them and I mentioned them because I'm 19, another is 48 and the third is 68. It was used as a demonstration to show you that it was not just old people who voted to leave I'm very well informed and well educated thank you, the same can't be said for you. Please retire from your bigotry. You simply dont understand that its not about some people. Its about the majority of them. Majority of young and or educated people voted to stay. The majority of old people voted to leave. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-how-the-results-compare-to-the-uks-educated-old-an/ About you and your 3 people : Read all your comments in the last hour. You dont know about Homophobes or huligans. You. This isnt about you or you and your 3 people. Inform yourself because if you dont inform yourself, you cannot call yourself educated. Please respect the environment here and stop called me biggoted, especially since you call me that because I didnt use the word SOME, which I used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Florin said: You simply dont understand that its not about some people. Its about the majority of them. Majority of young and or educated people voted to stay. The majority of old people voted to leave. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-how-the-results-compare-to-the-uks-educated-old-an/ About you and your 3 people : Read all your comments in the last hour. You dont know about Homophobes or huligans. You. This isnt about you or you and your 3 people. Inform yourself because if you dont inform yourself, you cannot call yourself educated. Please respect the environment and stop called me biggoted, especially since you call me that because I didnt use the word SOME, which I used. You literally are stupid and I cannot deal with it anymore. Nothing you've just said is true and most of it is spun. Where is your evidence to prove that the majority of educated people voted to stay? EDIT: I have just found a perfect example of your ignorance. A post you made in another Brexit thread: I hate how extremists play so easy with nationalistic feelings. They have zero arguments for leaving EU and the timing is the worst. EU has enogh problems already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just now, Saint Laurent said: You literally are stupid and I cannot deal with it anymore. Nothing you've just said is true and most of it is spun. Where is your evidence to prove that the majority of educated people voted to stay? Sorry, I cannot continue this. Its a shock to find people like you on Gagadaily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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