Hillary Clinton claims victory, makes history

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3 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

They must have cobwebs up in there!  

 

I screamedT. 

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1 hour ago, TrumpAteMyHeart said:

Trump has to DELIVER with the debates! Expose how corrupt our system + the Clintons are by using facts (love Trump but simply saying "Crooked Hillary" all the time is not enough). He has to SAVE our country before it's too late!

He won't.  Hillary is amazing in debates because she actually has policies outlined she wants to implement, true ideas, not buzz lines.  Even Obama said she forced him to get better  in debating real issues and policies every time they had a debate.

 

Trump is just bluster, nothing more.

Trump would destroy out country with his thin skin reaction to everything and temper and misogynistic attitude and racist attitude, on and on.  He would be ineffective, because he listens to no one and reacts.  He's dangerous for that reason.  His own party knows that.

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TBH the "Politics" tag needs to removed and should be added back when Gaga runs.

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37 minutes ago, Prismatic said:

I screamedT. 

Lmao!  😜

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"On Tuesday, Hillary Clinton became the first woman to (presumptively) win a major party's nomination for president of the United States.

That's both an ending — a shattering of the glass ceiling Clinton has so often referenced — and a beginning: of the general election in which she'll face Donald Trump.

So it makes sense to see the video released by the Clinton campaign Tuesday, to commemorate her achievement, in two different ways. It's the first message, in some ways, of her general-election campaign.

But it's also a retrospective: it packs 100 years of women's rights (as Hillary Clinton presumably sees them) in under 3 minutes.

There's a lot packed into this video. Clinton celebrates pioneering elected officials like Shirley Chisholm, Patsy Mink and Margaret Chase Smith; highlights present-day protests from undocumented Latinas and black trans women; and quotes not one, but three different girls and preteen women.

In some ways, that reflects some of the coalition she's built to win the nomination: Clinton's core of support is from older Democrats (particularly older women), but she's made a real effort to reach out to racial-justice, immigration and LGBT activists. But there's more going on here than sheer tokenism.

You can tell at a glance that the video's diverse, but you can't immediately see that it's (in some ways) intersectional — attuned not just to women's rights, but to women fighting for the rights of other marginalized groups.

The video may quote Gloria Steinem (who's fallen out of favor among some younger feminists for her at-times tone-deaf support of Clinton), but it quotes her giving a 1971 speech in which she called for a feminism that addressed race and class as well.

The teen girl identifying herself as a "new suffragist" in voiceover is Madison Kimrey, who was briefly Internet-famous in 2013 when she gave a passionate speech attacking North Carolina's voter-ID laws. The video features black trans* activists Blossom Brown and Cherno Biko; it also features Sybrina Fulton, the mother of Trayvon Martin, who's become involved in racial-justice efforts after the death of her son.

Since none of the women in the video are identified by name or role, most viewers probably won't recognize all of them. They're basically Easter eggs for the politically aware. But that's significant in its own right: as she pivots to the general election, Hillary Clinton is making a point of featuring some of the core Democratic and progressive constituencies and issues that have gotten her here.

Even viewers who don't recognize many (or any) of the women in the video, though, will notice something striking: Clinton is, time and again, celebrating activists. The images and videos are overwhelmingly from rallies and protests. And not just protests that are far enough in the past to be politically safe, like civil-rights marches, but footage from racial-justice protests of the last few years (which are often considered disruptive at best and associated with riots at worst).

No one in Clinton's video is a "normal" person, a civilian, just trying to live her life. They're all holding signs and making noise. They're all fighting the status quo, hard.

They're intended to be inspiring. They may be polarizing.

Compare that to the video last summer with which Clinton launched her primary campaign. It too was diverse, but all its subjects were very normal people living very normal lives — working, caring for family, expressing their hopes for the future. It was clearly intended to send the message that Clinton understood and cared about "people like you" — where "you" was as broad a term as possible.

In one way or another, Clinton's whole career (and "the Clintons'" whole career) has been built on a similar principle: breadth of appeal.

Her husband came to power by eschewing the progressive, constituency-focused — some might say balkinized — progressive Democratic politics of the 1980s for a center-left "New Democrat" politics that courted swing voters (moderate whites). Hillary Clinton, for her part, has traditionally presented herself as a moderate, a pragmatist, a sub-ideological technocrat. When she's a fighter, she's a fighter for all Americans; when she's relatable, she's relatable to as many people as possible.

The new video is hardly spiky or idiosyncratic. As long as you're bought into "the radical notion that women are people," you probably won't find much to object to. But it's hard to imagine that a video designed to feel relatable or broadly appealing would so celebrate women who made change by forcing other people to be uncomfortable. Hillary Clinton wants America to know that well-behaved women rarely make history, and she's celebrating the women who do."

 

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1 hour ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

Whoops, someone doesn't understand history or the importance of representation (among other things) 

In reality, voting in a white bigot has happened tons and tons of times, so Trump's nomination is the more usual expected one The only interesting thing about him is that hes supposed to be a good businessman, but that's pretty debatable. 

Also on a literal level, the "first" of anything happen is well literally history being made, regardless of whether you personally see any significance in the action.

 

Sorry, nope! Most people expected her to win, she's been a total politico since forever. The fact she's female was not holding her back. In fact, everyone says she has the establishment advantage over her rival Sanders, so....

 

Trump's is more surprising and notable. He's the most unorthodox candidate either Party has nominated for many decades. Perhaps the most unorthodox nominee in the whole 20th and 21st centures, since he was not even a party member, just some outsider with a penchant for riling folks up.

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32 minutes ago, Goosey said:

 

Sorry, nope! Most people expected her to win, she's been a total politico since forever. The fact she's female was not holding her back. In fact, everyone says she has the establishment advantage over her rival Sanders, so....

 

Trump's is more surprising and notable. He's the most unorthodox candidate either Party has nominated for many decades. Perhaps the most unorthodox nominee in the whole 20th and 21st centures, since he was not even a party member, just some outsider with a penchant for riling folks up.

Do you understand the difference between making history and making an impact?

Trump made an impact by making a joke out of the Republican Party and American politics. But Hillary made history by just being the first woman ever to run for president. 

History can be made without having an impact on society or being shocking and unexpected. Anyone who is the first person to ever do something is making history. It's not that hard to understand and it's not that deep.

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3 minutes ago, DrewStevens said:

Do you understand the difference between making history and making an impact?

Trump made an impact by making a joke out of the Republican Party and American politics. But Hillary made history by just being the first woman ever to run for president. 

History can be made without having an impact on society or being shocking and unexpected. Anyone who is the first person to ever do something is making history. It's not that hard to understand and it's not that deep.

 

I don't think it's a big deal. Obama was a big deal being the first black man. Hillary, not so much. It's not 1970 anymore. Yes, it's a minor historical footnote, first woman nominee. But no, it's not a big deal, it's not "changing everything". It's freakin' Hillary Clinton.

You won't change my opinion on this.

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11 minutes ago, Goosey said:

 

I don't think it's a big deal. Obama was a big deal being the first black man. Hillary, not so much. It's not 1970 anymore. Yes, it's a minor historical footnote, first woman nominee. But no, it's not a big deal, it's not "changing everything". It's freakin' Hillary Clinton.

You won't change my opinion on this.

Who the **** said that this changed everything?

The thread and her tweet say that history was made, which is 100% truth. It's not up for interpretation. History was made today and your opinion won't change it because it's a fact.

Big deal or not it's history.

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5 minutes ago, DrewStevens said:

Who the **** said that this changed everything?

"Tonight, we can say with pride that, in America, there is no barrier too great and no ceiling too high to break."

Pfft.

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Just now, Goosey said:

"Tonight, we can say with pride that, in America, there is no barrier too great and no ceiling too high to break."

Pfft.

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Just now, LebaneseDude said:

 

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3 minutes ago, Goosey said:

"Tonight, we can say with pride that, in America, there is no barrier too great and no ceiling too high to break."

Pfft.

That was a realization that anything is possible in America. Yes!! Because Democrats followed the first Black nominee with.the First female nominee..... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!