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MaryJaneHolland
23 minutes ago, Didymus said:

* RedOne states that one of the songs was meant to be released as the lead single, but that this release has been cancelled.

maybe it was just delayed for later this year :wtf:

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Didymus
2 minutes ago, Bebe said:

At the end of the day she is rich af. She will be okay. She more than anyone else has enough room to experiment and push the boundaries. She can become a boring popstar trying to rehash what has worked before for success or she can do something interesting and build an interesting career.

I don't even mind if she tries something different and completely fails, that's part of the risk and that's what makes it exciting and that's what makes for a fascinating legacy.

I remember back in 2009 I had this theory based on Gaga saying she wanted to bring the avant-garde into the mainstream, that she was just playing the role of a pop star for a while (which doesn't mean she wasn't passionate about it) so that she could eventually have the means to do whatever the hell she wanted, without being stuck in an underground scene.

And indeed, in that way you can bring a lot of essentially non-mainstream elements into a mainstream current, because you're already famous and you will receive more attention than when you're playing in bars, even though you might be doing the same thing. Those thoughts are coming back to me these weeks. Very excited to see what she'll do.

4 minutes ago, Bebe said:

I personally want Gaga to just try something completely different from what she has done before though.

Agreed anyway :nick: And from what we've heard from Ronson and the bits we know about who else might be producing, we'll get just that.

Though I'm also wondering what's the fate gonna be of the tracks she wrote with Diane and Elton..

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Didymus
Just now, MaryJaneHolland said:

maybe it was just delayed for later this year :wtf:

Maybe.. but I'd assume RedOne would know about that if that were the case :shrug:

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antpats2
28 minutes ago, Didymus said:

#. What do you think might be different between "what the fans want" and "what Gaga is after right now"?

What the fans want - TF/TFM dark dance pop aka Bad Romance 2.0 

What Gaga wants right now - a more mature sound that shows evolution rather than remaking old tracks 

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keith ink
25 minutes ago, Baby Blue said:

I want a visual album at the end of the era :sis: 

The fact that we only got 2 videos since 2012 :rip: 

THIS. WE WANT A VISUAL ALBUM WITH 3 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE MV PER SONG (A-LA DANGEROUS WOMAN) TO COMPENSATE FOR THE 4 YEAR DROUGHT

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Didymus
Just now, keith ink said:

THIS. WE WANT A VISUAL ALBUM WITH 3 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE MV PER SONG (A-LA DANGEROUS WOMAN) TO COMPENSATE FOR THE 4 YEAR DROUGHT

Are you guys serious about that or.. :rip:

I mean, that would probably mean waiting another 12 months before she's done.

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keith ink
1 minute ago, Didymus said:

Are you guys serious about that or.. :rip:

I mean, that would probably mean waiting another 12 months before she's done.

For all we know she has already been filming those videos. BItch aint lazy

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Didymus
Just now, keith ink said:

For all we know she has already been filming those videos. BItch aint lazy

Maybe.. we didn't know about anything when Bey did it, I guess.

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Here's hopin'. We are lacking some serious Gaga visuals in this fanbase.

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antpats2
1 minute ago, keith ink said:

For all we know she has already been filming those videos. BItch aint lazy

you think shes had time to record 14 or so videos when shes still MIXING songs and shes been learning lines for AHS season 6 AND recording the next jazz album? :rip: 

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Didymus
Just now, antpats2 said:

you think shes had time to record 14 or so videos when shes still MIXING songs and shes been learning lines for AHS season 6 AND recording the next jazz album? :rip: 

Good point lmao

Revising my earlier post.

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keith ink
1 minute ago, Didymus said:

Maybe.. we didn't know about anything when Bey did it, I guess.

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Here's hopin'. We are lacking some serious Gaga visuals in this fanbase.

Yes and I have faith that LG5 will quench the thirst for new music and visuals. I have faith in her.

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The Surrealist
45 minutes ago, Didymus said:

What do you think might be different between "what the fans want" and "what Gaga is after right now"?

The 'fans' want pop songs like 'Bad Romance', 'Paparazzi' and all of The Fame (Monster). Gaga is after a more mature sound and album. She does not want Pop to define her music career, that's why she tried so many genres in the course of her career. Critical acclaim and fans who support her choices without demanding things she does not want to do.

45 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Should Gaga care about what the fans want or not at all, or somewhere in between like RedOne is describing?

No, she should not. It is her career and if she did what the fans would want her to do, her career would be over and she would not be honest to herself or her fans, because Gaga does not want to be controlled.

45 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Do you think it's realistic that RedOne's tracks will end up on LG5 now that Ronson proclaimed he's producing the entire album?

No. At best she is going to take one or two of RedOne's tracks and edits them with Ronson.

45 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Do you think Gaga and RedOne are still capable of making pop masterpieces?

Yes, but Gaga is over Pop at this point. She wants to do something new and special. Gaga is a growing artist and evolves with her music.

45 minutes ago, Didymus said:

How much do you think RedOne actually knows? Should he be making comments about LG5 if he's not sure about what's going on?

I think he had a vision with Gaga in the beginning of 2015 but she changed that vision after American Horror Story and maybe after Bowie's death, so he knows almost nothing now and he should not comment anymore on the happenings of LG5 if he is not sure or did not talk to Gaga.

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Bradley

#. What do you think might be different between "what the fans want" and "what Gaga is after right now"?

#. Should Gaga care about what the fans want or not at all, or somewhere in between like RedOne is describing?

#. Do you think it's realistic that RedOne's tracks will end up on LG5 now that Ronson proclaimed he's producing the entire album?

#. Do you think Gaga and RedOne are still capable of making pop masterpieces?

#. How much do you think RedOne actually knows? Should he be making comments about LG5 if he's not sure about what's going on?

 

#1 There are so many types of fans. Some want the commercial bops, some want Gaga to evolve. I think RedOne wants to preserve the 'Judas', 'LoveGame', 'ScheiBe' edginess while Gaga wants to evolve into something we fans and RedOne himself have not witnessed before. I can't say who's better, cause I haven't heard the music, I'll let Gaga decide what is best for the album.

#2 Depends on the theme of the RedOne tracks made earlier, if they fit with Ronson's effort, then they might still make it on the album. I for one, do not see RedOne and Mark Ronson's work being similar or coherent to each other, one excels in dance music, the other disco/funk (based on Uptown Special, don't quote me with some of his work which are not disco/funk cause I used the word 'excel').

#3 Yes, Ronson too. We all have subjective opinions towards the word 'masterpiece' though.

#4 Probably not as much as Ronson, but if he wants to give us information (that Gaga permits him to disclose), why not? As long as he doesn't offend Gaga or her team, I would welcome as much information as I can get.

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Bradley
13 minutes ago, keith ink said:

THIS. WE WANT A VISUAL ALBUM WITH 3 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE MV PER SONG (A-LA DANGEROUS WOMAN) TO COMPENSATE FOR THE 4 YEAR DROUGHT

One good video that becomes iconic/popular >>> three separate videos that garner insufficient attention.

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GagaMegaFan

I would like to say this;

"I trust Gaga. Yes they have created pop masterpieces in the past with RedOne. They even couldn't believe that they can create something better and bigger than Poker Face but they did Bad Romance like RedOne says. If LG5 won't include any of these 8 tracks, if Gaga decides that these songs aren't great enough then I don't care, I still have faith in Gaga."

But I can't say this. Because I don't trust Gaga in that she will do what WE want. Because she will do what SHE wants. So I hope we will get to hear those tracks, even if they leak because I don't think gaga will release them after Mark and that C3C you know :gaycat:

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