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LG5: Misconception about Gaga's Producers


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I feel like there is a big misconception or misunderstanding of what Gaga's producers say about LG5 and what many here perceive their message to be. For example, when Red One says "Gaga is still figuring out what she wants", many perceive this as "Gaga is so early in the album process", "The album won't be released until 2017", "Gaga has lost her creativity", and "She is so lazy". But the more logical interpretation of this would be that she already finished tons of songs (like she always does for every album) and she is simply deciding which songs are the best and or which ones best fit the theme of her album (which is why the producers still don't know whether or not their songs are going to be on the album). At the end of the day Gaga is the only one the knows how this album will end up as a finished product and everyone else working with her will never now what the final product will be until the album is released.

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FATCAT

Well, after so many jumps to conclusions, the fan base just feels safer betting against progress they don't explicitly know of. Yes, in this case it would be more reasonable to assume the above, but hyping this album for July when we might get it in December only hurts us. Let's not get carried away. 

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1 minute ago, FATCAT said:

Well, after so many jumps to conclusions, the fan base just feels safer betting against progress they don't explicitly know of. Yes, in this case it would be more reasonable to assume the above, but hyping this album for July when we might get it in December only hurts us. Let's not get carried away. 

But who hyped this album for July though?

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post of yours I've had no problem with. She's worked with so many people at this point and she knows there's major hype about her return with RedOne so people need to chill they can all exist in Harmony

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kabirartfling

What redone said was that he did his part which was to produce bops....& now its up to gaga and interscope to decide wether those bops make the album or not....pretty simple! :huh:

And monsters are just gripping on the whole analog thing too tightly.....they need to free their minds!:unicorn:

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Just now, Enigma said:

But who hyped this album for July though?

I'm saying that it's these short jumps that lead to the huge hype. If we step back further and further, we won't be let down by over-excitement every week that goes by.

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1 minute ago, FATCAT said:

I'm saying that it's these short jumps that lead to the huge hype. If we step back further and further, we won't be let down by over-excitement every week that goes by.

Yes. But at the end of the day monsters are hyping themselves since nothing has come out of Gaga's mouth.

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Yes but honestly, people were saying the exact same thing last year. "She's been working since 2014, there's no way she isn't close to being ready yet!" Well.. And don't forget the monstrous ARTPOP wait ruined by fans who were lecturing everyone on how it was coming in July.

So I prefer to stop theorizing and just believe the statements we're getting, since they've been accurate so far ever since 2014.

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5 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Yes but honestly, people were saying the exact same thing last year. "She's been working since 2014, there's no way she isn't close to being ready yet!" Well.. And don't forget the monstrous ARTPOP wait ruined by fans who were lecturing everyone on how it was coming in July.

So I prefer to stop theorizing and just believe the statements we're getting, since they've been accurate so far ever since 2014.

But the point here is that she probably finished many songs during all this time. She is just not ready to release yet for whatever reason. Is not like she has not been working at all.

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Just now, Enigma said:

But the point here is that she got done with songs during all this time. She is just not ready to release yet for whatever reason. Is not like she has not been working at all.

If people were using that argument half a year ago too, clearly that's not the best one to use. She literally told us she recorded close to a hundred songs for ARTPOP and we all know how little made it to the actual record. All those songs she made previously could very easily be scrapped or just kept for personal purposes (remember she revealed to make finished albums never to be heard by the public in 2014), so that argument just leads us nowhere in particular imo.

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1 minute ago, Didymus said:

If people were using that argument half a year ago too, clearly that's not the best one to use. She literally told us she recorded close to a hundred songs for ARTPOP and we all know how little made it to the actual record. All those songs she made previously could very easily be scrapped or just kept for personal purposes (remember she revealed to make finished albums never to be heard by the public in 2014), so that argument just leads us nowhere in particular imo.

But my only point is that she has been working. This is not laziness or lack of creativity, is just that she takes a long time puttiing everything together

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2 minutes ago, Enigma said:

But my only point is that she has been working. This is not laziness or lack of creativity, is just that she takes a long time puttiing everything together

Well, that's extremely obvious to me. Sad that some fans don't get that I guess.

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1 minute ago, Didymus said:

Well, that's extremely obvious to me. Sad that some fans don't get that I guess.

Yes. Many here think that she has lost her creativity or that she doesn't want to work on music anymore. But it is pretty obvious from pictures, videos, and what producers say, that she has been making new music pretty much all the time. I am guessing that she simply thinks a lot about what the final product should be because she wants to make it the best it could be.

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2 minutes ago, Enigma said:

Yes. Many here think that she has lost her creativity or that she doesn't want to work on music anymore. But it is pretty obvious from pictures, videos, and what producers say, that she has been making new music pretty much all the time. I am guessing that she simply thinks a lot about what the final product should be because she wants to make it the best it could be.

100% :applause: From her interviews (incl. her comparing the process of making LG5 with how she made TF and TFM: no pressure; "I'll call you when I'm done") that should be well understood.

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