Why do people ignore Madonna's ephebophilic character?

[bionic 48,188]

Page 3 (the first page) of the book:

The last few lines are particularly relevant. 

[Andrew Warhola 12,992]

2 minutes ago, thotiana said:

thanks for these reciepts. i hadn't known this and is something that could have been explained on the first plage

It was explained on the first page 

 

[JbGaga 2,261]

1 minute ago, samthekid said:

I see nothing wrong with this. the teenage boy could've had a thing for milfs

Just courious if it was a teenage girl with a dude would you feel the same?

[petty 9,412]

Just now, Benji said:

"And by the way, any similarity between characters and events depicted in this book and real persons and events is not only purely coincidental, it's ridiculous. Nothing in this book is true. I made it all up."

oh ok, so she only wrote fictional child ****. thanks!

[Snow 1,582]

1 minute ago, thotiana said:

but she's talking as if it was HERSELF!

instead of saying "the best experience lolita had was with a teenager" she said "the best experience I had"

Omg The lvl of ignorance! Go read The book before you come here crying with your false accusations.

One more time! Its FICTION. A story of a woman called Dita(its not fubking M) exploring (sometimes even Dark)fantasies and taboos IF female sexuality. Its pure fiction! Its not meant to be serious. Madonna doesnt personally approve that or do that, its a ****ing story!

There are hundreds of literary works about this subject and theme! Some greatest novels of ALL time! So why aren't you trying to crusify those works and authors?! 

[petty 9,412]

1 minute ago, Andrew Warhola said:

It was explained on the first page 

 

fictional child pxrn is still an issue and does not help rape culture. she still doesn't win here kanyeshrug.gif

[KyliesChild 16,907]

1 minute ago, thotiana said:

oh ok, so she only wrote fictional ****. thanks!

Fixed!

[The Child 18,997]

40 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Whether it was real or not, that is a pretty sick fantasy. Now, while there was no mention of him actually being underage, she sure put in a lot of graphic descriptions that suggested that he was very young, under-age young: "teenage boy," "a virgin," "barely any pubic hair," "he never went to school," "he wasn't very big, he was a baby." None of this is coincidental, it's meant to be titillating and appeal to your darker, creepy side. And that's all very well...but don't bring borderline underage characters into it. If they're young, make it blatantly clear that they are legal. But don't overemphasise the youth, don't fetishise the youth, don't make it sound like they are attractive purely because of their youth. But she's doing all these things here and its disgraceful.

Let's put this another way...take this passage and switch the genders. It's a man talking about sex with a teenage girl, that she was a virgin and had barely any pubic hair and didn't go to school and hung out at his house and slept over at his when her parents kicked her out. Now, would you say: "don't judge, it's just harmless fantasy?" No, a man wouldn't get away with writing this. Notice when the subject is a boy, some of you said he had barely any public hair because he was a late developer or shaved? That shouldn't be the train of thought you go down when you hear this. But if it was a girl described as having no pubic hair, would you assume she was a late developer or had shaved? No, you'd assume she was underage. Because we look at boys and girls sexual situations differently. At the end of the day, this was one hell of a creepy story, real or not. And it's wrong how women are not questioned when they appear to have sick fantasies involving very young boys but when men do it, they're villified. Some feminism.

Girls shave too.

[DrewStevens 5,249]

4 minutes ago, bionic said:

I've made my thoughts on the topic very clear throughout this thread. The last couple of pages have been about whether its appropriate for Madonna to be picked on specifically for this fictional story. All I'm saying is that there are bigger fish to fry.

And all I'm saying that ignoring this because there are worse things happening in the world is just like ignoring any other problem because there are people dying in Africa.

Madonna is being picked on right now because this is about her, not about Bowie or R Kelly. When someone decides to create a thread about R Kelly then it will be unfair to bring Madonna in.

[SKANK 14,288]

6 minutes ago, Bellatrix said:

If you write a story about a killer doesn't mean you want to actually kill someone, right?

 

She isn't Vladimir Nabokov. This isn't a great work of literature. This is a pop star's fictitious musing about her sexuality. I've seen blog posts with more literary value then the paragraph included in the OP.

If Justin Timberlake released a book documenting his sexual fantasies about teenagers who had yet to fully develop pubic hair he would be branded a pedophile for the rest of his life.

 

 

[Haroon 49,685]

Just now, Bellatrix said:

But it's not even her own fantasies. It's complete fiction so why even discuss about her being a pedophile?

Because it's possible to extend writing to personal thoughts and feelings  It's been reported and my thoughts on it have been posted in the report so we'll see what happens when others post theirs. In the mean time if you don't like the thread and don't want to discuss the topic then you don't need to post in it  

[Benji 20,113]

2 minutes ago, thotiana said:

oh ok, so she only wrote fictional child ****. thanks!

Ryan Murphy wrote fictional murders and rapes. Gaga then acted some of them out. Let's lock them all up!

[Sam Dey 1,847]

2 minutes ago, JbGaga said:

Just courious if it was a teenage girl with a dude would you feel the same?

of course not because men and woman are different. Men are dominant and bestial. For women it's more sensual (idk exactly because i'm a guy). 

[Bellatrix 34,660]

Just now, SKANK said:

 

She isn't Vladimir Nabokov. This isn't a great work of literature. This is a pop star's fictitious musing about her sexuality. I've seen blog posts with more literary value then the paragraph included in the OP.

If Justin Timberlake released a book documenting his sexual fantasies about teenagers who had yet to fully develop pubic hair he would be branded a pedophile for the rest of his life.

 

 

So she can't write fictional stories? 

[bionic 48,188]

2 minutes ago, DrewStevens said:

And all I'm saying that ignoring this because there are worse things happening in the world is just like ignoring any other problem because there are people dying in Africa.

Madonna is being picked on right now because this is about her, not about Bowie or R Kelly. When someone decides to create a thread about R Kelly then it will be unfair to bring Madonna in.

I think we are misunderstanding each other. Obviously fiction vs reality is a whole other topic, but people in this thread are acting like Madonna has just been sentenced to jail for pedophilia. There is no dialogue in this thread about whether its appropriate to write these stories where they (in my enterpretation) purposely leave the age of consent of a party vague. Its just people bickering in a typical stan war.