Didymus 34,380 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 17 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: No, a man wouldn't get away with writing this. ... And it's wrong how women are not questioned when they appear to have sick fantasies involving very young boys but when men do it, they're villified. Some feminism. Oh girl. David Bowie f-cked a 14 year old virgin girl. Jimmy Page later had sex with the same girl. Never heard of the groupies of that time? Male rock stars got away with everything. The Rolling Stones and Chuck Berry had lyrics about underage girls and nobody gave a ****, even though there were statutory rape laws already back in the 70s. Jerry Lee Lewis had sex with a 13-year old in the 50s. Bill Wyman had sex with a 14-year old. Don Henley drugged a 16-year old in the 80s. Prince also had his teenage lover (sex at 17) and he wrote songs about her too. Marvin Gaye had sex with a 17-year old. No one bothered to defend those girls and even now people quickly pass off the whole phenomenon as "something of the time". Nothing is even mentioned of these things usually, esp. with icons like Bowie and Prince. But you're complaining about a self-presented fictional fantasy? Get your priorities straight. It's sickening how Madonna is always thrown under the bus just because she pissed people off ever since she started in the 80s. The level of added scrutiny she faces is absurd compared to how statutory rape is just happily ignored and forgotten from male legends who actually did something criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: Lol what? You're comparing two different topics. Being married with someone younger and having sex with underage people are two different things. One of them is a crime, the other isn't. This is not Madonna dating a guy who is the same age that her daughter, this is Madonna having sex with a guy who may have been a minor considering the descriptions. And I know women are usually judged for dating younger men unlike men but women usually can get away with having sex with underage males unlike men who usually are seen as monsters while women just are doing a favor to those underage boys. Im sorry wherebis M having sex with a child? Because in OP there's a bit from The fictive literary work of fiction depicting taboos and fantasies of a woman called Dita? Like this theme has been written about hundreds of times in literary works. So are you guys now saying ALL author's that have ever writen about this in any context are a pedophile? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 "It was just a fantasy." As if anyone here would find it acceptable for a man to document his sexual fantasies with an underdeveloped teenage girl. "He wasn't 8, he was a teenager." As if anyone would use that as a justification for a man having sex with a thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, or sixteen year old girl. I don't blame you guys for being hypocritical. We live in a culture with a puritanical relationship with sexuality, we shun natural desires, we have over reaching laws about sexuality, arbitrary age of consent laws...it's a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,811 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Haroon said: Edited the title to "fantasies" because "acts" means that it was done and stuff Please keep things mature and civil guys. Reveal hidden contents Editing the title cost me the Splatoon match and me ranking up The things I do for you Sorry about your game, but come on that edit isn't good enough. It's not anything pedophilic about this, so how can you allow this topic? It just brings up false accusations. Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty 9,412 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just now, Bellatrix said: Sorry about your game, but come on that edit isn't good enough. It's not anything pedophilic about this, so how can you allow this topic? It just brings up false accusations. If Madonna didn't want "false accusations", why write this "fiction" in the first place. the only people who have brought up that this was a fictional story are madonna fans. the normal person would read this story and be disgusted so enough of this justification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 minute ago, bionic said: Society as a whole, not GGD. Pedophilia isn't taken seriously enough in Hollywood. Well that still doesn't mean people should ignore this. That's like the whole "there's people dying in Africa" argument to dismiss a less important problem. I'm not saying Madonna is a pedophile but there's nothing wrong on bringing this up. People here are acting like anyone who is concerned by this or concerned by the reaction is a "hater" or a "looser". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,312 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: Lol what? You're comparing two different topics. Madonna is talking about a teenager, not a child. Ever heard about something called age of consent? I think all of you guys are the ones talking about the wrong topic here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 55 minutes ago, thotiana said: "ONE OF THE BEST EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD WAS WITH A TEENAGE BOY" read better henny He could have been EighTEEN or NineTEEN. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,811 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 1 minute ago, thotiana said: If Madonna didn't want "false accusations", why write this "fiction" in the first place. the only people who have brought up that this was a fictional story are madonna fans. the normal person would read this story and be disgusted so enough of this justification. If you write a story about a killer doesn't mean you want to actually kill someone, right? Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty 9,412 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just now, elijahfan said: Madonna is talking about a teenager, not a child. Ever heard about something called age of consent? I think all of you guys are the ones talking about the wrong topic here. NNNNNNN you're just making this worse for yourself sis. i'd quit while you're ahead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 The scariest thing ever happened to me. I was listening to music, Scheibe was playing and then as I was reading the text, Give Me All Your Luvin started to play. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bellatrix said: Sorry about your game, but come on that edit isn't good enough. It's not anything pedophilic about this, so how can you allow this topic? It just brings up false accusations. Don't be sorry, I'm joking (mostly ) Well from what I've read so far the description depicts a teenager, whether they're legal or not is up to personal interpretation and is debatable. Which then opens up the discussion of what age is okay and why is Madonna right/wrong for the fantasy and if the fantasy is even "real" enough to care about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty 9,412 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just now, Bellatrix said: If you write a story about a killer doesn't mean you want to actually kill someone, right? but she's talking as if it was HERSELF! instead of saying "the best experience lolita had was with a teenager" she said "the best experience I had" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,107 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just now, DrewStevens said: Well that still doesn't mean people should ignore this. That's like the whole "there's people dying in Africa" argument to dismiss a less important problem. I'm not saying Madonna is a pedophile but there's nothing wrong on bringing this up. People here are acting like anyone who is concerned by this or concerned by the reaction is a "hater" or a "looser". I've made my thoughts on the topic very clear throughout this thread. The last couple of pages have been about whether its appropriate for Madonna to be picked on specifically for this fictional story. All I'm saying is that there are bigger fish to fry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 What makes American Horror Story or any film or book that features illegal activity different to this? Madonna wrote those stories as a character. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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