Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 hour ago, monketsharona said: Please a bit of respect. We all know he is doin magic with Gaga. Without him Gaga would probably not be as big as she is. We all know he did magic with Gaga like 5 years + ago... Trying the same formula OVER AND OVER again is not a good thing... I am so happy that he is not the main producer anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, PopThatArt said: Hunty, I'm already saying that about Mark. He is terrible, and the fact his only hit song has been accused of plagiarism by a 70s hip hop funk group isn't why I don't like him. He just offers nothing to music stars musical catalogue, everything he does is forgettable, timid, repetitive and uninteresting, to say the least. wtf Mark has produced&written INCREDIBLE songs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 83,560 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 minute ago, PopThatArt said: Hunty, I'm already saying that about Mark. He is terrible, and the fact his only hit song has been accused of plagiarism by a 70s hip hop funk group isn't why I don't like him. He just offers nothing to music stars musical catalogue, everything he does is forgettable, timid, repetitive and uninteresting, to say the least. Yeah I was just pointing out how much Monsters are hypocrites : trashing RedOne after Judas flopped, trashing DJWS after ARTPOP underperformed, now wanting RedOne back while they were shading him during BTW. They are doing excatly the same with Mark Ronson praising him to hell but we ALL what what will happen if his songs are flopping on LG5... To me Mark Ronson is ok, I give him a chance because we know Gaga take the best from her producers (like she did for the others). But to me he is overestimated on his own career, especially Uptown Funk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yves 1,891 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The title is hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoXoJoanneGaga 629 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Here's a non-Spotify link for those superior Apple Music/Tidal folks : http://www.audiocastle2.com/tracks/view/402840-RedOne-Ft-Enrique-Iglesias-R-City-Serayah-Shaggy-Dont-You-Need-Somebody-CDQ Yeah this is horrendous. None of Gaga's past producers have done anything halfway decent outside of their work with her though (in some cases even with her). RedOne's strength is co-writing which is why it's no surprise all the pics of them together last year were of writing sessions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 83,560 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: We all know he did magic with Gaga like 5 years + ago... Trying the same formula OVER AND OVER again is not a good thing... I am so happy that he is not the main producer anymore that doesn't mean he will do exactly what he did on TF and TFM... He has in studio playing guitar with her. People doesn't know it but RedOne played in a rock band earlier in his life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyGagaStan93 129 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, PopThatArt said: Hunty, I'm already saying that about Mark. He is terrible, and the fact his only hit song has been accused of plagiarism by a 70s hip hop funk group isn't why I don't like him. He just offers nothing to music stars musical catalogue, everything he does is forgettable, timid, repetitive and uninteresting, to say the least. Now you know this is all a lie, and the TWO ROTY grammy awards disagree. Now I will say that while Uptown Funk is a clear honorable mention to several funk sounds of the 70's, I doubt him and Gaga are trying to recreate an Uptown Funk 2.0. We all know she's not the one to really go for that kind of mess. He's one of the most respected, but that doesn't mean you have to like him. He's for DAMN sure a better musician and producer than Red One is. Whether you like it or not. Red One is definitely best when he's with Gaga, but he's not really all that phenomenal of a producer on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 83,560 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, LadyGagaStan93 said: Red One is definitely best when he's with Gaga, but he's not really all that phenomenal of a producer on his own. I think nobody said the contrary ^^ People are just pointing out it is dumb saying that he shouldn't be on LG5 because he's doing horrible in his own while he has done some of the best Gaga songs I think people need to realise working with Gaga is different. For exemple you can't be sure Mark Ronson productions will sound like what he does usually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyGagaStan93 129 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, monketsharona said: I think nobody said the contrary ^^ People are just pointing out it is dumb saying that he should be on LG5 because he's doing horrible in his own while he has done some of the best Gaga songs I think people need to realise working with Gaga is different. For exemple you can't be sure Mark Ronson productions will sound like what he does usually. I'm just stating the obvious, because it's clear that people are torn between his producing abilities. He's okay, but Gaga like you said definitely gives that push. I also think it's that because of her musical abilities a lot more of her work shines through him since its mainly her melodies and his input on how it sounds in production form. Good point about Mark's productions too. As long as they're creating in a space where the music is coming from THEM and not like Zedd's laptop where he had all those old beats that he recycled and gave to Gaga, I'm good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,560 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 OMG Shaggy, those were the times. I hear a "Rihanna". You people really need to understand a thing. Though this seems to get too confused. There's composotion, production, the two may even overlap, as well as arranging. A producer usually does it all. But a producer doesn't have to be the composer, and you just go to him and say, "Let's do a Enrique Iglesias classic and mantain the sound with the other releases." Then the producer is responsible to choose the right drums,synths supervise the recording, do a pre-mix, add couple effect. The producer is more of a passive creator, he's mostly making sure that the recording goes smooth with the levels and they aquire the sound that was proposed. I'm not a RedOne stan, i could care less, the music he does doesn't excite that much. I prefer Mark Ronson, who's influences i share, as well as taste. But you guys really need to stop and think for a change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 34 minutes ago, monketsharona said: that doesn't mean he will do exactly what he did on TF and TFM... He has in studio playing guitar with her. People doesn't know it but RedOne played in a rock band earlier in his life. Well 1)I don't think that he has ever produced anything else than pop-electronic music 2)The fact that Gaga isn't working with him anymore probably means something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxi 4,999 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Another generic, basic, dated song from RedOne. He is stuck in 2008 with his tired ibiza disco. Luckily Gaga is in good hands with Mark Ronson, he won't give her trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede ARTPOP 6,737 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 He can do better tbh, I hope he saved some new gems for LG5 MAYHEM / ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 83,560 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Britney Spears said: Well 1)I don't think that he has ever produced anything else than pop-electronic music 2)The fact that Gaga isn't working with him anymore probably means something yeah it means they are done working together for LG5 and that he did his part. It was the plan since the start for them to work until late 2015. In January 2015 when RedOne talked about their collaboration, he already said that they would be done in late 2015. It happened like it was planned. Only fans see him being scrapped. If we get your vision, we can also say she has scrapped DJWS, Diane Warren, Elton John, Nile Rodger and Giorgio Moroder. LG5 is not a Mark Ronson album. She definitely has kept some other producers in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede ARTPOP 6,737 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, monketsharona said: yeah it means they are done working together for LG5 and that he did his part. It was the plan since the start for them to work until late 2015. In January 2015 when RedOne talked about their collaboration, he already said that they would be done in late 2015. It happened like it was planned. Only fans see him being scrapped. If we get your vision, we can also say she as scrapped DJWS, Diane Warren, Elton John, Nile Rodger and Girogio Moroder. LG5 is not a Mark Ronson album. She definitely has kept some other producers in it. Im just worry thers no RedOne or like any other producers talking/teasing about LG5 anymore MAYHEM / ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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