LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: I'm sure Hillary will win the presidency but if by some chance she doesn't win I'm 100% sure the Hillary supporters will blame Bernie and his supporters. Would you think it isn't given that Sanders is continuing his negative campaigning? Can't spell SANDERS without NADER. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendablethyn 536 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: I'm sure Hillary will win the presidency but if by some chance she doesn't win I'm 100% sure the Hillary supporters will blame Bernie and his supporters. Even if she wins she will be ineffective. The electorate has moved on and wants an anti-establishment President. There's basically nothing about her or her platform that people are enthusiastic about. The party NEEDS Bernie if it wants a President that will be able to carry out the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,983 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, LebaneseDude said: Would you think it isn't given that Sanders is continuing his negative campaigning? Can't spell SANDERS without NADER. No, I wouldn't think it's his fault. If she loses it's her own fault. I mean if you can't win against Trump.... Irrelevant because she WILL win, but still..... Bernie's negative era was mostly in April, he's toned down and wasn't aggressive before that. Some Hillary supporters think not praising her 100% of the time is "aggressive" though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, Morphine Prince said: No, I wouldn't think it's his fault. If she loses it's her own fault. I mean if you can't win against Trump.... Irrelevant because she WILL win, but still..... Bernie's negative era was mostly in April, he's toned down and wasn't aggressive before that. Some Hillary supporters think not praising her 100% of the time is "aggressive" though He may not be bashing Hillary directly (although his constituents do it for him) but he's more than happy to cry about the Democrat system. Given that Hillary is a long time Democrat and a clear favorite for obvious reasons, that's guilt by association. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, brendablethyn said: Even if she wins she will be ineffective. The electorate has moved on and wants an anti-establishment President. There's basically nothing about her or her platform that people are enthusiastic about. The party NEEDS Bernie if it wants a President that will be able to carry out the job. Did you even read her platform? Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,983 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, LebaneseDude said: He may not be bashing Hillary directly (although his constituents do it for him) but he's more than happy to cry about the Democrat system and given that Hillary is a long time Democrat that's guilt by association. Well he's not a real Democrat, as Hillary suspected a few months ago.... he can't be blamed, now can he? Honestly I think it's the supporters which are becoming out of hand. After June 7 it will all calm down so.... the convention is until late July. The anger should subside by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendablethyn 536 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 15 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: She's the system that has screwed everyone over? It wasn't personal towards her. It was just the truth that she is part of the establishment who is close to Wall Street. Bernie campaigned on his message. Was he supposed to not do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Well he's not a real Democrat, as Hillary suspected a few months ago.... he can't be blamed, now can he? Honestly I think it's the supporters which are becoming out of hand. After June 7 it will all calm down so.... the convention is until late July. The anger should subside by then. No he absolutely can be blamed, because he's running in the Democratic primary and is overtly attacking a supposed colleague in a manner that befits a GOP competitor. And before anyone mentions Obama vs Clinton, she never questioned the results of contests and never made claims about the corruption of the system. It's one thing to attack someone for their positions. That's normal in a race, even if it gets dirty. It's another to fundamentally attack their character and integrity. I don't think it would calm down as much as we think it will. Bernie will probably half-ass his endorsement. We'll see how it goes. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christinahoney 383 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I'm gonna vote trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, brendablethyn said: It wasn't personal towards her. It was just the truth that she is part of the establishment who is close to Wall Street. Bernie campaigned on his message. Was he supposed to not do that? Sure why not the establishment that has brought civil, women, and LGBT rights as well as other improvements in every shape or form in the face of obstructionist GOP leadership is a horrible corrupted organization that as far as we can tell is close to Wall St based on purely empirical evidence. Suppose that's the case. Why is he pinning it all on Hillary again? Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, christinahoney said: I'm gonna vote trump. Christina, honey... Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendablethyn 536 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: Did you even read her platform? Yes, but the swing voter doesn't read it they watch the news and hear the soundbites. Hillary's message is very weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, brendablethyn said: Yes, but the swing voter doesn't read it they watch the news and hear the soundbites. Hillary's message is very weak. That's awfully condescending towards swing voters Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendablethyn 536 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said: That's awfully condescending towards swing voters Not really. Most of them would probably admit to not knowing details on policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefamebitch 834 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Cmon why even post this? This is like posting Hillary winning an MSNBC poll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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