Didymus 34,379 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Just now, August Blue said: She is beeing late for a reason , so the product you will buy will be better. Not necessarily. I mean, I believe the album will be good, but that's not a guarantee. Besides, there's no reason why she can't make an even better album in less time or something. Just now, August Blue said: Dont compare an album with food, and an artist to a kitchen chef cmon .. And noone is treating her differently, she makes music when she is inspired and when she can or wants to , and you buy it if you want. If you cant wait , find other stuff for whatever. In the end there will always be new fans, even if the old ones will be tired of waiting. Well, I agree 100% with that. I'm one of the fans who's perfectly fine with waiting. I'm used to a lot worse. But I don't think it's right to silence the ones who are not, particularly because Gaga has herself created such a tight, personal connection to her fans and is now inevitably disappointing many by dropping it. Logical conclusion of events, nothing to whine about. Fans aren't obliged to do anything but enjoy what their idol offers them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Didymus said: But I don't think it's right to silence the ones who are not, particularly because Gaga has herself created such a tight, personal connection to her fans and is now inevitably disappointing many by dropping it. Logical conclusion of events, nothing to whine about. Fans aren't obliged to do anything but enjoy what their idol offers them. Yes but its not easy to give fans what they want and to make their wishes come true. She goes through a lot. She is a human beeing, just like her fans. She is engaged, has parents , friends . She has a life. She has the right to live and do whatever she wants. She already told in the end of ARTPOP that she will not stop etc.. She is working, and A LOT.. doing all this its not easy.. So this fans, should remind this and stop stressing themselves out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 21 minutes ago, Didymus said: Agreed. But that goes both ways imo. Gaga sells a product, the fans like it if they want to. When they're not getting what they want, their complaints are logical and shouldn't be silenced. To use an analogy: when you sit in a restaurant and you feel like you're waiting too long, you will complain and you might leave. The food might not taste that good anymore, if it's good, which you can only hope for. Some people rather go get some chicken wings at McDonald's, some people are fine with waiting. Simple as that. The complainers have a right to point out the fact if they stop coming, the restaurant will go bankrupt. I don't see any reason to treat Gaga differently. This, fans are so delusional on this site and trying to silence every honest complain about Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yes, you can treat Gaga as a provider of product and react as you wish. However, as a creative artist the reality is that people hounding her all the time will sap her energy and affect what she produces. Sure it's best that Gaga ignores her fans, but part of that is precisely because they are just as likely to contribute negative energy to her as much as positive energy. Being energized by her fans is not the same as pandering to them. But if all the fans see in Gaga is a person who produces product, then it's best for her to detach. Ideally an artist finds supporters that keep them energized and creative, encouraging them to stretch themselves. That's a better relationship than just producer/consumer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownlessking 158 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 She honestly can't win. She rushes it, releases it, gives too much info - people will complain. She takes too long and is enigmatic to raise hype and take her time perfecting it - people complain. But let me put it plainly: Musicians don't owe you ****. Just because you buy her albums, doesn't mean she owes each and every fan their individual demands. When you buy her albums you get just that - an album. When you buy her concert tickets, you get the concert experience. Purchased her single? Great! Enjoy the single you just bought! Because that's what you're entitled to. Nothing more, nothing less. Shes an artist with an artistic vision, so please, please, please stop acting so entitled. Gaga isn't treating her fans badly. She's out living, recording, creating. She's being human. Cut her a break. There's a reason she stopped visiting this forum, and some fans negativity and constant whining probably contributed to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 She's already very detached from us, so it doesn't really matter who supports her and who complains. It would be best to let those that support her be deluded in that she is thankful for it, and let those that complain be deluded in that she gives a s hit about it. No point in complaining about complainers. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 and here's little me thinking this was about **** https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 hours ago, giskardsb said: Yes, you can treat Gaga as a provider of product and react as you wish. However, as a creative artist the reality is that people hounding her all the time will sap her energy and affect what she produces. Sure it's best that Gaga ignores her fans, but part of that is precisely because they are just as likely to contribute negative energy to her as much as positive energy. Being energized by her fans is not the same as pandering to them. But if all the fans see in Gaga is a person who produces product, then it's best for her to detach. Ideally an artist finds supporters that keep them energized and creative, encouraging them to stretch themselves. That's a better relationship than just producer/consumer. This. Gaga is a person. She has feelings. She needs to be encouraged, not dragged. Let her create with her mind in a happy space. Give her the love and kindness she wishes for everyone. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilVenusian 579 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 One does not simply tell stans to not be a bunch of endlessly thirsty zealots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 21 hours ago, Didymus said: Agreed. But that goes both ways imo. Gaga sells a product, the fans like it if they want to. When they're not getting what they want, their complaints are logical and shouldn't be silenced. To use an analogy: when you sit in a restaurant and you feel like you're waiting too long, you will complain and you might leave. The food might not taste that good anymore, if it's good, which you can only hope for. Some people rather go get some chicken wings at McDonald's, some people are fine with waiting. Simple as that. The complainers have a right to point out the fact if they stop coming, the restaurant will go bankrupt. I don't see any reason to treat Gaga differently. Except Gaga is not a restaurant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ronlop said: Except Gaga is not a restaurant. Why not? What makes her different from a chef selling his food? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio 27,762 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 21 hours ago, giskardsb said: Right now Gaga is in creative mode Well I'm currently in spectator mode I wonder what's gonna happen when we all switch to survival Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomingfree77 244 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 21 hours ago, Didymus said: Well, she got a 25 million Malibu mansion for one. I was gonna add it's probably been 6-7 years since she had to do a load of laundry and wear the same panties twice for a number 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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