giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 "Gaga doesn't give us anything." "Gaga owes us music." "Gaga doesn't give us anything between eras". "We don't have enough videos". Hounding Gaga on social media and in person for LG5. You want Gaga to give you all this. Yet what does she get in return? Right now Gaga is in creative mode, working on new material. She needs positive energy, instead she gets people dragging energy away from her because of their neediness and complaining. You want the best work from her? You want her to feel encouraged to work every day? You want her energized and excited about making music? Then stop draining her with negative BS and complaining. Give her back love and encouragement. Let her know you are excited, but don't berate her because you think she's being slow or because you are afraid of her direction. Look at the threads on this site. Would you, as an artist, be encouraged and want to produce music for these fans? I'd be more likely to tell them to **** off tbh. quit being needy quit taking. Start giving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Well, she got a 25 million Malibu mansion for one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KARMA 1,022 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 money money monaaay, we gave her fame and monaaay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 These twinks just need something better to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Just a fortune of 225 million. Nothing special, something you see every day tbh. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 *looks at her lifestyle* Not sure if serious or Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, Didymus said: Well, she got a 25 million Malibu mansion for one. 5 minutes ago, Love Drought said: Just a fortune of 225 million. Nothing special, something you see every day tbh. So what ? She sells her music and you buy it because you like it.. You're not donating her money.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Of course all everyone sees is the material stuff and ignores that Gaga doesn't get her motivation from those sources, or the effect that negative attitudes can have on her own no matter how much money she has. She had all that and still wanted to quit music. Is this fanbase helping or hindering her now. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Just now, August Blue said: So what ? She sells her music and you buy it because you like it.. Your not donating her money.. That's not a response to the context of the OP. She does get a lot in return. This is the woman who has repeatedly dedicated her entire life to her fans, and she has capitalized on her fan connection - genuine or manufactured - since day one, but especially from 2009 onwards to this very day. If her fans turn out to be greedy mother****ers that's the logical result of pandering to them 24/7, end of story. 1 minute ago, giskardsb said: Of course all everyone sees is the material stuff and ignores that Gaga doesn't get her motivation from those sources, or the effect that native attitudes can have on her own no matter how much money she has. She's an artist. If she tries to get motivated through her fans she's obviously doing something wrong. She shouldn't give a ****, and lately it looks like she doesn't, which is a nice improvement of her "I just want the fans to be happy" shtick. But you can't blame anyone for complaining when she's dropping the fan service act now that she's swimming in money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,267 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I don't think she gives a **** about her fans or what they think of her anymore. She clearly said that they think everything she does is cryptic so she seems like she no longer bothers with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret 2,320 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Tell me I am not the only one who thought this thread was not about Gaga... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Didymus said: That's not a response to the context of the OP. She does get a lot in return. This is the woman who has repeatedly dedicated her entire life to her fans, and she has capitalized on her fan connection - genuine or manufactured - since day one, but especially from 2009 onwards to this very day. If her fans turn out to be greedy mother****ers that's the logical result of pandering to them 24/7, end of story. She's an artist. If she tries to get motivated through her fans she's obviously doing something wrong. She shouldn't give a ****, and lately it looks like she doesn't, which is a nice improvement of her "I just want the fans to be happy" shtick. But you can't blame anyone for complaining when she's dropping the fan service act now that she's swimming in money. Yes i know it was in the context of your coment. she is swimming in money because she deserves it, and because she has a big fan base. There is no way that all her fans would be greedy mother****ers , so no matter what her work will be appreciated because she has already worked hard enough for that. And she owns nothing to noone. And whatever her mansion in Malibu, or her swimming in money, she got them because she gave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,914 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Secret said: Tell me I am not the only one who thought this thread was not about Gaga... I thought it was about friendships Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, August Blue said: And she owns nothing to noone. Agreed. But that goes both ways imo. Gaga sells a product, the fans like it if they want to. When they're not getting what they want, their complaints are logical and shouldn't be silenced. To use an analogy: when you sit in a restaurant and you feel like you're waiting too long, you will complain and you might leave. The food might not taste that good anymore, if it's good, which you can only hope for. Some people rather go get some chicken wings at McDonald's, some people are fine with waiting. Simple as that. The complainers have a right to point out the fact if they stop coming, the restaurant will go bankrupt. I don't see any reason to treat Gaga differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Didymus said: Agreed. But that goes both ways imo. Gaga sells a product, the fans like it if they want to. When they're not getting what they want, their complaints are logical and shouldn't be silenced. To use an analogy: when you sit in a restaurant and you feel like you're waiting too long, you will complain and you might leave. The food might not taste that good anymore, if it's good, which you can only hope for. Some people rather go get some chicken wings at McDonald's, some people are fine with waiting. Simple as that. The complainers have a right to point out the fact if they stop coming, the restaurant will go bankrupt. I don't see any reason to treat Gaga differently. She is beeing late for a reason , so the product you will buy will be better. Dont compare an album with food, and an artist to a kitchen chef cmon .. And noone is treating her differently, she makes music when she is inspired and when she can or wants to , and you buy it if you want. If you cant wait , find other stuff for whatever. In the end there will always be new fans, even if the old ones will be tired of waiting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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