Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, River said: Yeah well.. I don't care, my people are being killed by her country.. I'm not going to apology now. I would change my mind only if she will say something against the acts of Chechnya, until then, bye bye. You are really bringing up too much politics in this. First of all, competing artists aren't allowed to make political statements during Eurovision times and second of all, it's not directly countries and their goverments who compete in Eurovision. The participants are national TV broadcasters that are members of the EBU, who don't usually has anything to say about the politics. Until you understand that, bye bye. Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,088 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just now, Erotica said: You are really bringing up too much politics in this. First of all, competing artists aren't allowed to make political statements during Eurovision times and second of all, it's not directly countries and their goverments who compete in Eurovision. The participants are national TV broadcasters that are members of the EBU, who don't usually has anything to say about the politics. Until you understand that, bye bye. I didn't go personal with you so don't with me. The gay holocaust in Chechnya is not political! please understand that and please understand how much many of us are emotional at the moment. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just now, River said: I didn't go personal with you so don't with me. The gay holocaust in Chechnya is not political! please understand that and please understand how much many of us are emotional at the moment. I didn't get personal. I explained some facts about Eurovision. I totally understand that, it's really awful but Eurovision is not the the right forum to discuss it in. Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,088 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just now, Erotica said: I didn't get personal. I explained some facts about Eurovision. I totally understand that, it's really awful but Eurovision is not the the right forum to discuss it in. "Until you understand that, bye bye." it's kinda personal The situation with Russia was in the title so I felt that I have the right to write what I feel about that... anyway, let's have a nice Eurovision, Europe needs it after all the shitty years!! So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, River said: "Until you understand that, bye bye." it's kinda personal The situation with Russia was in the title so I felt that I have the right to write what I feel about that... anyway, let's have a nice Eurovision, Europe needs it after all the shitty years!! Well you wrote bye bye so I wrote it too because I saw no point discussing it further. We don't want this thread to get filled with politics so let's talk Eurovision from now on Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 OGAE Czech Republic: 12p - Italy 10p - Belgium 08p - Estonia 07p - Romania 06p - France 05p - Belarus 04p - Austria 03p - FYR Macedonia 02p - Finland 01p - Hungary Current Top 5: 1. Italy - 90 points 2. Belgium - 65 points 3. Sweden - 59 points 4. Estonia - 49 points 5. France - 48 points Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katharine Hepburn 4,607 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I have a feeling Francesco is going to do a Loreen 2012 xoxo Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 OGAE Switzerland: 12p - Italy 10p - Belgium 08p - France 07p - Sweden 06p - Estonia 05p - Portugal 04p - Finland 03p - Israel 02p - FYR Macedonia 01p - Hungary Current Top 5: 1. Italy - 102 points 2. Belgium - 75 points 3. Sweden - 66 points 4. France - 56 points 5. Estonia - 55 points Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 The Russian broadcaster Channel One has officially confirmed to ESC Today that Russia will withdraw from Eurovision this year, due Julia Samoylovas travel ban to Ukraine An official statement by EBU hasn't been made yet. http://esctoday.com/144070/russia-officially-withdraws-eurovision-2017/ Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 Statement from the EBU: Following the official confirmation that Russian Eurovision entrant, Julia Samoylova, will not be permitted to travel to Kyiv to compete in the Eurovision Song Contest 2017, the EBU formally offered two alternative proposals to Channel One in a bid to find a solution that would enable Russia to continue their participation in this year’s event. "These proposals were to either take part via satellite or to change their chosen artist to one who could legally travel to Ukraine for the duration of the Contest. Sadly both proposals have been rejected by Channel One and they have now announced they do not intend to broadcast the Eurovision Song Contest 2017. Unfortunately this means Russia will no longer be able to take part in this year’s competition. We very much wanted all 43 countries to be able to participate and did all we could to achieve this," the EBU states. Frank Dieter Freiling, Chairman of the Eurovision Song Contest Reference Group, the event’s steering committee, said: "We strongly condemn the Ukrainian authorities' decision to impose a travel ban on Julia Samoylova as we believe it thoroughly undermines the integrity and non-political nature of the Eurovision Song Contest and its mission to bring all nations together in friendly competition. However, preparations continue apace for the Eurovision Song Contest in the host city Kyiv. Our top priority remains to produce a spectacular Eurovision Song Contest with our Member UA:PBC in May." https://eurovision.tv/story/russia-unable-to-participate-2017-ebu-statement Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 On 2016-05-15 at 1:23 AM, bionic said: Because its part of the rules https://www.eurovision.tv/upload/press-downloads/2016/2015-10-28_2016_ESC_rules_PUBLIC_EN.pdf 1.2.2.h Yet a certain host nation has the right to involve their political conflicts #CelebrateDiversity? Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto 13,436 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 On 12-4-2017 at 5:35 PM, CustomGueseppi said: I have a feeling Francesco is going to do a Loreen 2012 I have the exact same feeling. I still really don't get all the love for that song. Gasp at Russia withdrawing btw! Free my mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 19,974 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 On 12/04/2017 at 0:38 AM, Erotica said: You are really bringing up too much politics in this. First of all, competing artists aren't allowed to make political statements during Eurovision times and second of all, it's not directly countries and their goverments who compete in Eurovision. The participants are national TV broadcasters that are members of the EBU, who don't usually has anything to say about the politics. Until you understand that, bye bye. The double standard when Ukraine won with a political song. I don't even understand how 1944 was allowed to be performed... Let alone win the competition... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne 4,505 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 How is Macedonia doing with the public? Any chance of placing a spot in the finals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, John Wayne said: How is Macedonia doing with the public? Any chance of placing a spot in the finals? I think so! It's not one of the hot favorites yet, but it seems to be liked by the Eurovision fans. Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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