New leather PETA ad

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

24 minutes ago, monstereo said:

There's no special component in meat itself that causes someone's brain to grow.

Protein* 

[LanasNerfGun 4,679]

I'm over here like

[Andrew Warhola 12,992]

1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

Protein* 

Are you implying you can't find protein in a plant-based diet?

[Goosey 3,017]

2 hours ago, Phoenix said:

i dont understand, maybe cause im not as fancy, but i see no difference between real leather and other cheaper one which isn't made of animal skin but whatever, people often just wanna buy something that's more expensive so they can say they paid it $500 or so... 

You're right, you're not as fancy. Lower standards.

Plus, you can't eat synthetic leather in a survival situation.

[Bear 7,515]

I think it'd be a stretch if I said I support leather/fur usage, it's not something I'd use personally, but I'm certainly not against it. It would be hypocritical of me as a meat-eater to do so; meat is a luxury and convenience we consume because we enjoy it, but it's not necessary for survival (as vegetarians and vegans prove). The same is true for fur and leather, and I find it strange how some people can be so against fur and leather and not meat.

I don't value animals as highly as humans (clearly if I eat them), but I do think all animals should have a certain standard of living free from suffering, no matter if the trade is meat, fur, leather .etc. Therefore, a more reasonable approach would be to regulate responsible fur and leather farming. Three questions to ask every time an animal is killed: Is it responsible?, is it sustainable? and is it ethical? If all three criteria is met, I don't see a problem with it personally.

I like the advert though. If you can't handle that leather came from something living, then you shouldn't be buying it. 

[Goosey 3,017]

4 minutes ago, Xenon said:

Are you implying you can't find protein in a plant-based diet?

Humans evolved as omnivores, deal with. Otherwise explain why almost every culture eats meat, with the exception of certain religions, and every prehistoric society too. Chimps eat meat too.

[Gaga Monster 13,001]

7 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

Protein* 

You can get plenty of protein from a plant based diet. There are tons of protein powders that are vegan and beans, veggies, and vegan meats (like Beyond Meat) contain the same amount of protein.

[Andrew Warhola 12,992]

1 minute ago, Goosey said:

You're right, you're not as fancy. Lower standards.

Plus, you can't eat synthetic leather in a survival situation.

You wouldn't eat (real) leather in a survival situation, either. What a ridiculous comparison

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

2 minutes ago, Xenon said:

Are you implying you can't find protein in a plant-based diet?

No what I am saying is that humans did not know that back then.  It just so happened that the consumption of meat in prehistoric times happen to evolve our brains forward...  Of course we can seek protein from other sources now, with the knowledge we have nowadays.  But humans have been eating meat for millions of years now(as pre-humans), and just telling them to give it up in a whim or cold turkey is just a fantasy!!!  The best you can hope for is to try and get people to reduce their meat consumption over time & incrementally...  And not just ALL completely at once like PETA would have it!  Smh 

 

[Andrew Warhola 12,992]

11 minutes ago, Goosey said:

Humans evolved as omnivores, deal with. Otherwise explain why almost every culture eats meat, with the exception of certain religions, and every prehistoric society too. Chimps eat meat too.

Humans haven't stopped evolving. And there are many cases of animals that turned from carnivores to herbivores over the course of time. I've been vegan for years now and the only supplement I take is B-12, I get my blood tested regularly and I haven't had a single problem. In fact, I'm a lot healthier than I used to be.

[Andrew Warhola 12,992]

6 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

No what I am saying is that humans did not know that back then.  It just so happened that the consumption of meat in prehistoric times happen to evolve our brains forward...  Of course we can seek protein from other sources now, with the knowledge we have nowadays.  But humans have been eating meat for millions of years now(as pre-humans), and just telling them to give it up in a whim or cold turkey is just a fantasy!!!  The best you can hope for is to try and get people to reduce their meat consumption over time & incrementally...  And not just ALL completely at once like PETA would have it!  Smh 

Well, I haven't had any problem with getting protein from other sources that aren't meat. But I can't speak for everyone. At least I don't worry about any future repercussions, because I don't plan on having children, anyway.

[ALGAYDO 35,135]

I ****ing hate the leather/fur industry so damn much. They're literally torturing animals for the sake of some rich, pretentious people being able to show off their luxury. 

And I can't at some people thinking that vegetarians/vegans conveying why animal cruelty is bad is the same as them "pushing" their ideals on others 

Like, if you're okay with all of the **** that's going on, that's fine, we're all human and we each have our own perspectives on life. Some people just can't afford to go vegetarian/vegan, some can but choose not to because of other personal reasons. But don't stay ignorant on the matter. That's the worst. 

Also, you don't have to be a vegetarian/vegan to boycot the meat industry. There's plenty of companies that treat and harvest their animals humanly 

[Andrew Warhola 12,992]

9 minutes ago, NOT Marinara said:

I ****ing hate the leather/fur industry so damn much. They're literally torturing animals for the sake of some rich, pretentious people being able to show off their luxury. 

And I can't at some people thinking that vegetarians/vegans conveying why animal cruelty is bad is the same as them "pushing" their ideals on others 

Like, if you're okay with all of the **** that's going on, that's fine, we're all human and we each have our own perspectives on life. Some people just can't afford to go vegetarian/vegan, some can but choose not to because of other personal reasons. But don't stay ignorant on the matter. That's the worst. 

Also, you don't have to be a vegetarian/vegan to boycot the meat industry. There's plenty of companies that treat and harvest their animals humanly 

They always make it sound as though vegans were trying to convince them of going gluten-free 

[monstereo 1,232]

29 minutes ago, Goosey said:

Humans evolved as omnivores, deal with. Otherwise explain why almost every culture eats meat, with the exception of certain religions, and every prehistoric society too. Chimps eat meat too.

Chimps are 95% vegetarian, and the protein that they get is mostly from bugs.

And almost every culture eats meat because its cultural lol. It's a learned behavior, just like how some cultures eat cats and dogs, and others are horrified at the thought of a cow being on a dinner plate.

[Bear 7,515]

9 minutes ago, NOT Marinara said:

Also, you don't have to be a vegetarian/vegan to boycot the meat industry. There's plenty of companies that treat and harvest their animals humanly 

Exactly, couldn't agree more! I'm a meat eater, but I'm aware of what I buy and I know exactly where my meat comes from and I know how the animals are kept. The problem is when people don't associate the act of eating meat with the animals they come from; it's this blind eye that often allows the worst cases of animal cruelty in the trade.