Didymus 34,380 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, River said: This circle of blood needs to end. those 2 governments Netanyahu and Hamas should be gone as soon as possible. both are war criminals and as long as both of them are still exist we will never see any solution and people will die. Few things: 1. a military will never be "the most humanitarian", no matter how many warnings or trying to kill less civilians as possible.. people will die, the purpose of a military is to kill, less to defend. so if a rapist warns it's victim before the rape and later gives the victim a ride to home and reading them a bedtime story it makes the rapist a "humanitarian rapist"? I don't think so.. there's nothing humanitarian when you hurt people. 2. like I said many times before, this conflict is good for both Hamas and Netanyahu, it gives them power and money. Netanyahu and Hamas doesn't care about their own people. if they cared they would throw the weapons away, sit and talk and make peace. 3. those media arguments are turning us against each other, it's becoming a media war, we are doing the same mistake that those 2 governments are doing. what we need to do is to work together, to promote peace. the first thing that we need to accept is that both sides are to blame and none of them is innocent. Preach it to the heavens. This should open every thread about Israel/Palestine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, Didymus said: Preach it to the heavens. This should open every thread about Israel/Palestine. You haven't even admitted Hamas' war crimes ONCE. You just said indirect things like: "No one is pretending Hamas is doing a good job over there". You're not objective at all and it's ridiculous you are criticizing the pro-israelis around here for showing only Israel's side while what you're doing is only showing the Palestinian side. Didy, it's about time you cut the bulshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Just now, Ronlop said: You haven't even admitted ONCE regarding Hamas' war crimes. You just said indirect things like: "No one is pretending Hamas is doing a good job over there". You're not objective at all and it's ridiculous you are criticizing the pro-israelis around here for showing only Israel's side while what you're doing is only showing the Palestinian side. Didy, it's about time you cut your bulshit. Cackle. That has to be your laziest comeback ever. I subscribe 100% to River's pov shown above. Hamas has to go (and I'm sure I've told you that in chat or wherever many times anyway but ok) but that doesn't mean the problems end there, and that doesn't mean I can't balance out your awfully biased presentation of events. Look at you. You can't even make a statement about the settlements, how sad is that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 21 minutes ago, Didymus said: Cackle. That has to be your laziest comeback ever. I subscribe 100% to River's pov shown above. Hamas has to go (and I'm sure I've told you that in chat or wherever many times anyway but ok) but that doesn't mean the problems end there, and that doesn't mean I can't balance out your awfully biased presentation of events. Look at you. You can't even make a statement about the settlements, how sad is that. You had an argument with me regarding Hamas. You were questioning the fact that they're terrorists and you were calling the IDF terrorists. Let's not play games here. I have said so many times that I do not support the settlements which is why I am not pro-Natenyahu but the settlements are not a justification for the violence coming from the Palestinians. No one is building settlements inside Palestinian villages or ruining Palestinian homes for the sake of building more settlements. You haven't even seen what's going on in the West Bank yourself. I have. The settlements isn't a discussion of life or death. Stabbing innocent Israelis on the street or burning innocent Palestinians on the other hand is a life or death discussion and far more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ronlop said: No one is building settlements inside Palestinian villages or ruining Palestinian homes for the sake of building more settlements. False. Israel demolishes only elementary school for Bedouin community in Jerusalem http://mondoweiss.net/2016/02/israel-demolishes-only-elementary-school-for-bedouin-community-in-jerusalem-2/#sthash.f2O0Vdz3.dpuf http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-razes-bedouin-school-despite-concern-over-demolitions/ Israel seized Palestinian family's East Jerusalem land behind its back, gave it to settler NGO http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.718612?v=745385EE922815A5274DD022A1FA3C98 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, Ronlop said: You had an argument with me regarding Hamas. You were questioning the fact that they're terrorists and you were calling the IDF terrorists. Let's not play games here. Erm.. nope. None of that's true. 24 minutes ago, Ronlop said: The settlements isn't a discussion of life or death. Stabbing innocent Israelis on the street or burning innocent Palestinians on the other hand is a life or death discussion and far more important. lol Except they're connected. And the settlements are illegal according to international law. 25 minutes ago, Ronlop said: No one is building settlements inside Palestinian villages or ruining Palestinian homes for the sake of building more settlements. Oh dear. Not gonna bother anymore then. If you can't even get basic facts straight. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 one-track political views make me laugh and not laugh and pinch myself and watch the Matrix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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