Another bible post on Gaga's Instagram

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11 minutes ago, Clip said:

I love how every thread about every possible topic (but specially if it is about religion) becomes an elaborated debate with deep thoughts 

It's because most of those prop gaga fans were forced to mifrate here after their forum came to an end

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Gaga is saying that we are all sinners at best and at most.

I feel like her wedding is coming on FAST....

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24 minutes ago, skeleton.gun said:

well, i'm no historian. but i do know that source materials can be incomplete or altered and that textual analyses or close studies are not always the best interpretative options. 

anyway, the accepted historical stance can be just as irrelevant as your and my opinion. 

Well, I'm only talking about the actual scriptures. Historians are very careful when making statements about the actual existence and real attributes of any of the personalities in them. And even careful historical reconstructions of who Jesus was for instance are, ironically enough, 100% in opposition to Christian philosophy.

But I can say they use good arguments for Mary M. It's not that hard to show that Mary M. and the sinful woman aren't connected in the Gospel texts. And it's just a fact that that connection only came about in the Middle Ages. While that doesn't make it a "false" reading, it definitely dispels the illusion that people earlier believed the women to be the same, which is evident from the non-canonical writings (incl. about Mary M.) that don't make the connection either. It's 99% certain that no one believed Mary M. was the sinful woman in the first centuries B.C. and, like I said, when you read the Biblical texts, there is indeed no reason to assume she is.

So I don't really get why you keep bringing up the argument. I mean, we're not talking about the historical vs. the Biblical Jesus Clearly history has no point trying to prove they're right, 'cause that's more a matter of belief in Jesus' teachings than his person. But this is about a pretty straightforward literary issue that has almost zero bearing on Christian beliefs, except that Jesus didn't have to "save" Mary M., which indeed takes off the misogynistic veil put on in the Middle Ages. I think the misogyny involved in this example makes your "Well, it's just one reading that might be true!" argument a bit awkward I don't think you're promoting misogyny but it can easily be (mis)read that way.

But yes, in case your blindness has returned: I agree in essence, yes

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I think she's basically saying that it's okay to be a prostitute. Here for her slutty era 

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41 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Noooo  I don't feel adequately pandered to as a gay male yet

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As long as she doesn't go full feminazi on us

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I don't see her doing that though. She's way too smart and loving to be anti-male

 

 

Don't take it too personally. Many of us have been personally affected by religious bigotry (or rather, bigotry "justified" with religion, namely Christianity). It's hard to have compassion towards someone who holds the same belief system as someone who insults us, condemns us to Hell, or literally attacks us  but not impossible.

You're right though. In the end, it's the teachings of Christ that Christians are supposed to follow. Just because some of them put their own personal prejudice in the spotlight, twisting the words of their god to fit that bigotry, doesn't mean all Christians should be judged  never feel like you need to justify your beliefs to those that won't listen. You seem like a wonderful person so don't worry about some of the more misguided comments here, friend 

Lmao being a feminist doesn't mean you're anti-male.

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11 minutes ago, AgusPop said:

Well, now the "little managers" want to control her private life and beliefs   

 

I can hardly think of something less private then a post going out to your sixteen million Instagram followers. She is a public figure making public statements about her beliefs. 

Accusing anyone who is critical of her beliefs of being a controlling fan is ridiculous.

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I don't understand this religious drama  I mean I'm atheist, so WHY THE HELL I F*CKING CARE IF GAGA -or whoever- IS CATHOLIC. I-don't-f*cking-care, this drama is unnecessary and pointless.

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5 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, I'm only talking about the actual scriptures. Historians are very careful when making statements about the actual existence and real attributes of any of the personalities in them. And even careful historical reconstructions of who Jesus was for instance are, ironically enough, 100% in opposition to Christian philosophy.

But I can say they use good arguments for Mary M. It's not that hard to show that Mary M. and the sinful woman aren't connected in the Gospel texts. And it's just a fact that that connection only came about in the Middle Ages. While that doesn't make it a "false" reading, it definitely dispels the illusion that people earlier believed the women to be the same, which is evident from the non-canonical writings (incl. about Mary M.) that don't make the connection either. It's 99% certain that no one believed Mary M. was the sinful woman in the first centuries B.C. and, like I said, when you read the Biblical texts, there is indeed no reason to assume she is.

So I don't really get why you keep bringing up the argument. I mean, we're not talking about the historical vs. the Biblical Jesus Clearly history has no point trying to prove they're right. But this is about a pretty straightforward literary issue that has almost zero bearing on Christian beliefs, except that Jesus didn't have to "save" Mary M., which indeed takes off the misogynistic veil put on in the Middle Ages. I think the misogyny involved in this example makes your "Well, it's just one reading that might be true!" argument a bit awkward I don't think you're promoting misogyny but it can easily be (mis)read that way.

But yes, in case your blindness has returned: I agree in essence, yes

maybe gagz has a special version of the bible. 

maybe the relevant pages that connect the two women were ripped out. 

but i am promoting misogyny, how can you say that i'm not? i'm anti-woman 

essence is what matters. 

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Just now, CrazyMonster said:

Lmao being a feminist doesn't mean you're anti-male.

I know, I'm somewhat of a feminist myself 

I'm half joking, half referring to those people that want to "bring down the patriarchy, down with men!" 

Spoiler

You know, the internet famous people that don't actually exist to my knowledge

 

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2 minutes ago, SKANK said:

 

I can hardly think of something less private then a post going out to your sixteen million Instagram followers. She is a public figure making public statements about her beliefs. 

Accusing anyone who is critical of her beliefs of being a controlling fan is ridiculous.

 

+ 60 mil. twitter followers

I got twitter notification from Gaga "Dear Becky...@catholink"

I was shocked.   

 

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16 minutes ago, Lil Mxnster said:

I don't understand this religious drama  I mean I'm atheist, so WHY THE HELL I F*CKING CARE IF GAGA -or whoever- IS CATHOLIC. I-don't-f*cking-care, this drama is unnecessary and pointless.

 

Lady Gaga is a prominent Gay Rights activist and Gay Icon.

Lady Gaga is now regularly worshiping at a Church which went from burning homosexuals by the thousands to currently describing homosexuality as a "disorder."

The bulk of her fan base is gay.

Now you understand the drama.

 

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1 hour ago, Juvi said:

ehmmm.... I'm not saying that I'm offended (I'm also not religious) and I'm not saying they (religious fans) should be but it comes across, with these multiple posts of/from/about christianity, that she is more in favor of christianity than she tried to display herself, which is sad, because religion is a main factor for most of the worst thing to ever happen on earth!

wow, this comment exudes intelligents.

Just think about how her Christian fans feel when she uses dark satanic imagery in her videos sometimes lmao or makes comments that could be offensive to religious fans. Lol