hELXIG 43,039 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Carmex said: Weed isn't addictive. Just like alcohol isn't addictive, yet there's people who abuse it and they are usually labeled alcoholics. Yes, there can be people who abuse weed and depend on it like an alcoholic depends on alcohol. However, it technically isn't an addictive substance. Anyway, if Gaga's weed dependency was so to help her cope with being famous, why not just stop? She still went on tour, still launched perfume, still released music, still performed at A list award shows, and the list goes on and on. Furthermore, she still smokes today... Some addict she was. Because they become DEPENDANT! People can become addicted to ANYTHING that makes them feel good or makes their life feel better! People can become addicted to eating f*ucking rocks. You've been misinformed about how addiction works. Weed doesn't contain addictive chemicals like tobacco or cocaine, but people can still become addicted. "WHY NOT JUST STOP?!" Get the f*uck out of here. You're a naive, ignorant person who has obviously never struggled with anything before or known of anyone who has struggled. You refuse to listen to reason and the reality of things. She's said before that she still smokes weed occassionally (because her addiction was a dependence addiction, not an addiction to a chemical substance) because it's better than her using other drugs. Now that she has treated the depression and reasons that caused her to be addicted to weed (dealt with the underlying condition it, as you put it) she can have it now and again, because it isn't chemically addictive, and she no longer uses it in the ways that made her addicted in the past. Does that make sense? I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 160,419 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just now, Carmex said: But she is a mainstream entertainer... How are you going to deny that sheer FACT? Gaga has stated several times that she is a performance artist. She performs to entertain people, at her concerts, and at award shows, is she not entertaining people? Is her music not being releasing with the intention to entertain people so that she and others can make a profit off of it? 7 minutes ago, PartySick said: She's not solely an entertainer. Music is an art form that can be used for entertainment but also for expression of deep thoughts and stories like the above. She's an entertainer but she's also a musician and an artist. Her sole purpose isn't to entertain and sell records. You're stinky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,478 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Weed is addictive but it can be more or less harmful. She clearly has struggled with discerning reality from fantasy. Cannabis is very very dangerous for personalities like this. She's been there, for sure. She seems to also have personality issues, which the medication she has to be on won't help a bit. Rebuilding is a very tricky thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just now, Disenchanted said: Because they become DEPENDANT! People can become addicted to ANYTHING that makes them feel good or makes their life feel better! You've been misinformed about how addiction works. Weed doesn't contain addictive chemicals like tobacco or cocaine, but people can still become addicted. WHY NOT JUST STOP?! Get the f*uck out of here. You're a naive, ignorant person who has obviously never struggled with anything before or known of anyone who has struggled. You refuse to listen to reason and the reality of things. She's said before that she still smokes weed occassionally (because her addiction was a dependence addiction, not an addiction to a chemical substance) because it's better than her using other drugs. Now that she has treated the depression and reasons that caused her to be addicted to weed (deal with the underlying condition it, as you put it) she can have it now and again, because it isn't chemically addictive. Does that make sense? How am I misinformed when I CLEARLY SAID in the FIRST section of THAT post that I understand how people can abuse weed just like people abuse alcohol? Try and keep up here. Thanks for furthering my argument, though. Weed has 0 addictive chemicals. I love how you make this sheer ASSUMPTION about me based on my point of view. And you want to call me ignorant? The audacity. It's not like Gaga couldn't stop being in the spotlight, if her health was at THAT MUCH of a risk due to her immense fame. I think you're the one being naive here. I mean, Britney Spears handled 2007, didn't she? She was tired of being famous and made that very clear but didn't release albums, give performances, etc, unlike Gaga. And okay, but alcohol isn't addictive and alcoholics who overcome alcoholism don't touch alcohol at all after gaining full sobriety. So again, she still smokes weed to this day, obviously it wasn't that harmful... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, PartySick said: She's an entertainer but she's also a musician and an artist. Her sole purpose isn't to entertain and sell records. Lol yes it is. She's a mainstream artist. You really believe Interscope doesn't want her to sell records? She's still a major artist signed to a major label. Her job is to bring in the dough. Otherwise how do you think she can manage to keep her people employed, keep herself signed to her label, make money by releasing albums, etc...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 43,039 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 I don't know why I got so involved in this argument, when I could've just blockedt that user to start with. I need to remember to not argue on here in future Sorry this thread got so derailed guys, lets get it back on track now. That person is on my blocked list and I have taken a deep breath. So... the Jean Paul Sartre reference in Stache and how it relates to her high days in 2012 and her other songs... I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Love how this thread died right when the OP decided to be a big baby because he can't have a debate with someone who disagrees with his deluded opinions and point of view. Rest in piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenniferella 2,774 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just came here to say I love these condescending posts full of "Well, just know that I know at least 2 people who are addicted to weed so it's addictive lol", seriously shut the fukc up, you clearly have no idea what it's about if unless you've experienced it. "I have been writing LG5 since I was 13" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eifulien 2,969 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Disenchanted said: I don't know why I got so involved in this argument, when I could've just blockedt that user to start with. I need to remember to not argue on here in future Sorry this thread got so derailed guys, lets get it back on track now. That person is on my blocked list and I have taken a deep breath. So... the Jean Paul Sartre reference in Stache and how it relates to her high days in 2012 and her other songs... Don't worry, pal! Your interpretation is very interesting and showing important things the fans weren't aware of. About this member - I was just wondering why he/she was in my ignore list cause I couldn't see his posts, but I guess this mess is enough. I really don't remember that username and I dunno what happened between us, but I never block for no reason, so I guess he is where he deserves to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUO YI 6,089 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I didn't think about the lyrics that way before It's deep and beautiful. I love how artists express their pain. The night sky tells all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeKermit 4,960 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I honestly really hope her next project will be her best one yet. I just feel like she is at the right place, she is happy, she is surrounded by understanding people,... I really think her new project will be something very 'colorful' in a way, because I just don't think she is going to do a 'dark' album, because it seems like she is way too happy to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AphroditeLaydee 1,230 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Carmex said: She should go back to smoking weed everyday. She was much more tolerable in '12. So were we. Now we've become a bunch of sad online trolls who keep pressuring to be who we want her to be and to do what we want her to do. OT: This analysis is amazing. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 48 minutes ago, AphroditeLaydee said: So were we. Now we've become a bunch of sad online trolls who keep pressuring to be who we want her to be and to do what we want her to do. OT: This analysis is amazing. Wow. It's her newer fans who are apart of the problem. They actually encourage **** like ARTPOP. How sad, I remember when this fanbase used to consist of people who had taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 160,419 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Funkymonkey said: I honestly really hope her next project will be her best one yet. I just feel like she is at the right place, she is happy, she is surrounded by understanding people,... I really think her new project will be something very 'colorful' in a way, because I just don't think she is going to do a 'dark' album, because it seems like she is way too happy to do that. Can't wait for her to hit us with that adult wisdom You're stinky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenniferella 2,774 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Carmex said: It's her newer fans who are apart of the problem. They actually encourage **** like ARTPOP. How sad, I remember when this fanbase used to consist of people who had taste. ARTPOP hit the nail in the coffin. As soon as she """"explained"""" what she """"wanted"""" to """"try"""" to do with ARTPOP (=the infamous nonsensical speech she gave with the releases dates), the fans suddenly all became artists and/or art critics. Till this day, these very same people still have no clue about what art means but still put Gaga on a pedestal because she's a """true artist""", based on her most empty album. But yeah, that must be because I don't understand the concept of the album...lol. "I have been writing LG5 since I was 13" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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