jojuun 4,159 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Regardless what direction LG5 takes... Wether it's straight-up pop, R&B, funk, techno, dance or f*cking folk for all I care, I'm going to ask one thing from LG5: the return of ChoreoGa. I don't care where and how, but I need her back. And I'm not talking the Richie choreographed Britney in 2011-eque hand movements Gaga loves to do these days, I need a properly choreographed and directed full-body dance sequence like she did for LoveGame. Wether it's during promo performances, a music video or the tour: I am on my knees every day praying for an epic choreography because ChoreoGa is not appreciated and I need her return. Few major stars are out there slaying it choreo-wise these days. The only one who's able to really bring it right now is Beyoncé and personally I think Ariana's Focus video had a really decent choreo too. No other recent dance moments spring to my mind right now, which is quite sad. Where did all of the good choreo go? Beyoncé is the only one who really, really stands out with choreo. She always brings 100% energy to her live performances and music videos. You just feel this mega-powerful thing inside of her come out when she's about to hit the choreo real hard during breakdowns and solo moments in her shows. Just check any performance from The Mrs. Carter Show, On The Run Tour or The Formation Tour... Wether you like her or not, she is an amazingly powerful dancer and always includes new influences, from the Fosse-inspired to the now tribal/modern dance influences in the Formation Tour. A few of her recent moments: Gaga used to have this too. And I'm not saying I want to see Gaga do Beyoncé-style moves with 900 back-up dancers like Bey at The Formation Tour, but a memorable choreo moment (could be anything) is very urgently needed. Just SOMETHING where you feel this powerful force come out like the LoveGame video or when she used to put the microphone down and just slay the choreo of the Poker Face Remix at the FB and PCD Tour (see gif below)... It doesn't have to be Beyoncé's militant-like style, but just SOMETHING powerful. Those who want to defend G.U.Y. and say it had amazing choreography can get out this thread. It wasn't. Don't even get me started on the artRAVE, anyone who dares to mention the MJH chair routine deserves to flush their stancard down the toilet. It was memorable for the wrong reasons and I'd like to have it erased from my Gaga-memory because I remember a Gaga that could hit a routine on beat and on point. #Pray4ChoreoGa #HireMoreChoreographers #OperationFindTheNewBoomKack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 #HeadsetGa Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I need us to put our monsters up again for LG5 tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I'd love for great choreo, but I also would love for her hip not to break again. Give me BTW choreo realness. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Nino said: I need us to put our monsters up again for LG5 tbh As much of an ass Laurieann became in the end, her routines were flawless and memorable. Who doesn't remember and love Poker Face's epic moves? Or the Love Game breakdown? And of course the iconic Bad Romance dance. But even the Paparazzi and Telephone videos were flawlessy choreographed... With Laurieann, Gaga was able to stand next to Beyoncé in Telephone and not get outshined during the dance scene. Bey has always been the better dancer and does it a lot more in her performances but ever since Richie took over, I am just not feeling Gaga's routines at all. Where is ChoreoGa? I also wonder if everything Gaga choreography-related since 2013 is really just all Richie or if they have others come in. Beyoncé and Madonna for instance always work with different choreographers. They have an overall choreographer and main dance captain's but they bring in different people to swap idea's so it doesn't become too much of the same thing. That's why Beyoncé can go from her classic booty-popping to now tribal influenced breakdowns and Alvin Ailey modern dance inspired stuff. Bey and M even take their dancers ideas and include them. Beyonce's dance captain Ashley choreographs a lot for her and Madonna hires like 10 for each tour. That's why they always switch it up so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 29 minutes ago, Miel said: I'd love for great choreo, but I also would love for her hip not to break again. Give me BTW choreo realness. If we are really going to use the hip-excuse, we might as well call the mods over at Exhale and merge with them. Before Britney got her groove back this year, they used the knee-injury as an excuse for like 10 years. Gaga breaking her hip has more to do with her stubborn self than her choreography. She was back on 10 inch heels quickly after surgery but she's not able to hit a choreo? I'm not buying that. And may I remind you she BROKE her hip after she already had a tear in it... She just continued touring, being the stubborn performer she is and then of course made it worse. Not saying I don't love her for wanting to continue to perform for all of us who bought tickets but you bet the moment Beyoncé feels something is up with her hip, she'll get on it and have a first, second, third and fourth opinion by different doctors. It's would have been better to just immediately cancel the rest of the shows rather than jeopardise the rest of her career... + She HAS shown moments of energy and has done the Poker Face routine in mega-heels again, there's just something about new choreo that's just... Off. So the hip thing is not an excuse because of that and just saying but Madonna, then aged 47, opened the 2006 Grammy's with a double hernia, was operated for that hours afterwards and then went on a six-month world tour 5 weeks afterwards. A 2 hour show with MAJOR choreo and 12 different choreographers... I'm talking about the GODLY Confessions tour featuring moments like: Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1510662/Surgery-for-Madonna.html So really there is no excuse for a healthy 30 year old, who's able to walk daily in the most insane footwear, to blame the lack of good choreo on a 4 year old hip injury... Let's not baby her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebeldeFaith 5,455 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Rumors say that it is because of the Britney curse. Since she kissed her, her dancing skills were downgrading and now there won't be any choreography on the next era. Spoiler It's horrible! You can even see her bacteria flowing through Gaga's neck veins trying to infect her talent core. Can I vanish into a cheeseburger pizza? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 42,974 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I want the same thing too, and Laurieanne Gibson's moves were so iconic! But just remember guys that she ****ed her hip. Not only will it never function the same again, but it was that kind of athletic level dancing that caused it to happen in the first place. I think she's probably too afraid of risking injury again. And she's probably more susceptible to re-injuring that hip. And I mean, this choreo was pretty good: I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 30,423 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 AGREE! Richie's choreo is very hit or miss and more often than not it looks really awkward. Here for stylish and cool choreo that's not too challenging for her (Just Dance, Poker Face, LoveGame, Bad Romance). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 hour ago, jojuun said: If we are really going to use the hip-excuse, we might as well call the mods over at Exhale and merge with them. Before Britney got her groove back this year, they used the knee-injury as an excuse for like 10 years. Gaga breaking her hip has more to do with her stubborn self than her choreography. She was back on 10 inch heels quickly after surgery but she's not able to hit a choreo? I'm not buying that. And may I remind you she BROKE her hip after she already had a tear in it... She just continued touring, being the stubborn performer she is and then of course made it worse. Not saying I don't love her for wanting to continue to perform for all of us who bought tickets but you bet the moment Beyoncé feels something is up with her hip, she'll get on it and have a first, second, third and fourth opinion by different doctors. It's would have been better to just immediately cancel the rest of the shows rather than jeopardise the rest of her career... + She HAS shown moments of energy and has done the Poker Face routine in mega-heels again, there's just something about new choreo that's just... Off. So the hip thing is not an excuse because of that and just saying but Madonna, then aged 47, opened the 2006 Grammy's with a double hernia, was operated for that hours afterwards and then went on a six-month world tour 5 weeks afterwards. A 2 hour show with MAJOR choreo and 12 different choreographers... I'm talking about the GODLY Confessions tour featuring moments like: Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1510662/Surgery-for-Madonna.html So really there is no excuse for a healthy 30 year old, who's able to walk daily in the most insane footwear, to blame the lack of good choreo on a 4 year old hip injury... Let's not baby her. Huh, I always thought her hip still got to her. Last year she posted herself getting pain treatment because her hip still acts up sometimes. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Disenchanted said: I want the same thing too, and Laurieanne Gibson's moves were so iconic! But just remember guys that she ****ed her hip. Not only will it never function the same again, but it was that kind of athletic level dancing that caused it to happen in the first place. I think she's probably too afraid of risking injury again. And she's probably more susceptible to re-injuring that hip. And I mean, this choreo was pretty good: Please read my post above regarding the hip thing. Applause at the VMA's for instance was very high-energy and athletic. She did a full costume change in 8.2 seconds wearing towering HEELS there. You tell me she's afraid of injuring it again... She just doesn't want to put the effort in anymore or Richie is just a fool for thinking this is top-notch choreo. Applause @ VMA's at least had energy. There's a few moments in there that give me major goosebumps but that's IT. The rest of the era featured little to very bad choreography... And this G.U.Y. thing is cute but just look at it, it's just there... Bland. It doesn't have the same power as her earlier choreo's. Selena Gomez and Meghan Trainor have danced harder in recent times, tell me in what world we're living now that's happening... If this sh*t continues, Adele will slay a dance breakdown sooner than Gaga... Richie either lost his mind in the rehearsels of the artRAVE or Gaga was just happy to half-ass out of disinterest, that Bad Romance choreography was tragic. Her dancers really saved it but it was still a Britney-sized mess. When this is the best move of your entire show, you know you need to bring in more choreographers or start putting more effort in: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 42,974 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just now, jojuun said: Please read my post above regarding the hip thing. Applause at the VMA's for instance was very high-energy and athletic. She did a full costume change in 8.2 seconds wearing towering HEELS there. You tell me she's afraid of injuring it again... She just doesn't want to put the effort in anymore or Richie is just a fool for thinking this is top-notch choreo. Applause @ VMA's at least had energy. There's a few moments in there that give me major goosebumps but that's IT. The rest of the era featured little to very bad choreography... And this G.U.Y. thing is cute but just look at it, it's just there... Bland. It doesn't have the same power as her earlier choreo's. Selena Gomez and Meghan Trainor have danced harder in recent times, tell me in what world we're living now that's happening... If this sh*t continues, Adele will slay a dance breakdown sooner than Gaga... Richie either lost his mind in the rehearsels of the artRAVE or Gaga was just happy to half-ass out of disinterest, that Bad Romance choreography was tragic. Her dancers really saved it but it was still a Britney-sized mess. When this is the best move of your entire show, you know you need to bring in more choreographers or start putting more effort in: Wow someone is passionate about Gaga not meeting their standards... All I'm saying is that she takes it easier, not that she physically can't dance any more. She mixes up high energy with low energy performances to give it a break in between. She can't do full energy dancing 100% of the time any more, it has to be balanced out. She obviously saves her biggest performances now for awards shows, music videos, and the ocassional other performance when she's really feeling it. Then she takes a break, does physical therapy, goes in her ultraviolet sauna or whatever it is, etc. etc. to make it better. God you guys are so ridiculous. "Put more effort in" you say about the woman who would throw up every night during shows from dancing too hard, and who broke her hip beyond repair from excessively exerting it on a regular basis. Yeah just "put more effort in". Some of you have NO regard for her actual well being. Like she's just some pop-robot who needs to meet your out of this world expectations. No wonder she got sick of the pressure and has changed her whole act to jazz/disco/funk/rock. I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexus 552 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Yes! I really really want good choreo in the next era! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Miel said: Huh, I always thought her hip still got to her. Last year she posted herself getting pain treatment because her hip still acts up sometimes. It could very well be it still gets to her but she's didn't really help it by going to the Versace show 3 months after surgery in these towering heels now, did it? Stop with the excuses, on a good artRAVE night with good energy, she'd do the old choreography for some of the songs Laurieann choreographed and those were amazing. It's just that anything since Richie seems to be lacklustre. That or Gaga's just sick of it. She walks around in these crazy shoes all the damn time and you tell me her hip is the reasons behind weaker choreo... Na-uh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioIsOurs 13,876 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Maybe without the 50 inch heels she would have the capability to do better dance moves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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