Beyoncé, Gaga, Madonna, Prince and the Gendered Use of the Word ‘Genius'

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18 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Im not going to read a book about sexism as I do know sexism exists and what its issues are and I never denied it existed.. I was also a feminist and know all of their arguments and theories.. im sure the book mentions discrimination against men but blames men and masculinity as usual.

You can't generalise all feminists. Not all of us believe in the same things and we all have different experiences that shape our views. And no, she doesn't blame men and masculinity. She talks about how men are expected to put up with things because they're expected to not show emotion, that men don't get the same rights as women involving paternity leave, the acceptance of male groping, the discouragment of boys to do anything remotely feminine or anything that involves a caring nature, etc. She includes various quotes from men throughout recounting their experiences of sexism. She includes this brilliant quote from a male feminist who talks about the many troubles that men disproportionally face - socialisation into violence, suicide, mental health problems, addiction, underachievement in education, homelessness, criminal offending, etc. that are quite interconnected but that these are more about men's welfare and wellbeing as opposed to a lack of rights, which makes it different to sexism faced by women. Overall, she is very kind to men and even makes the very good point that ending sexism will end it for men too because sexist things affecting women have a knock-on effect on men too, so we will all benefit by getting rid of it. And that feminism isn't about women vs. men, it's about people vs. prejudice. But I just wish more men could read about women's issues and take them in without constantly ending it with "But what's in it for me?" We're not saying you don't matter, we're saying we need to speak up more because our voices and issues are invisible most of the time.

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Just now, StrawberryBlond said:

You can't generalise all feminists. Not all of us believe in the same things and we all have different experiences that shape our views. And no, she doesn't blame men and masculinity. She talks about how men are expected to put up with things because they're expected to not show emotion, that men don't get the same rights as women involving paternity leave, the acceptance of male groping, the discouragment of boys to do anything remotely feminine or anything that involves a caring nature, etc. She includes various quotes from men throughout recounting their experiences of sexism. She includes this brilliant quote from a male feminist who talks about the many troubles that men disproportionally face - socialisation into violence, suicide, mental health problems, addiction, underachievement in education, homelessness, criminal offending, etc. that are quite interconnected but that these are more about men's welfare and wellbeing as opposed to a lack of rights, which makes it different to sexism faced by women. Overall, she is very kind to men and even makes the very good point that ending sexism will end it for men too because sexist things affecting women have a knock-on effect on men too, so we will all benefit by getting rid of it. And that feminism isn't about women vs. men, it's about people vs. prejudice. But I just wish more men could read about women's issues and take them in without constantly ending it with "But what's in it for me?" We're not saying you don't matter, we're saying we need to speak up more because our voices and issues are invisible most of the time.

Feminism only fights for mens right when its about making men more feminine, they dont fight for mens rights on issues that dont benefit them. I dont trust any person that is attracted to the ideology of feminism. The reason why all this happens is because of government and feminists want more bigger government.

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Because Madonna simply isn't a genius? What's so genius about Like A Virgin or Express Yourself  to use her in the same sentence as David Bowie or Michael Jackson is insulting.

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1 hour ago, CustomGueseppi said:

Because Madonna simply isn't a genius? What's so genius about Like A Virgin or Express Yourself  to use her in the same sentence as David Bowie or Michael Jackson is insulting.

Oh wow, There's some delusion right there....

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It's quite simple: she's still alive.  

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13 hours ago, CustomGueseppi said:

Because Madonna simply isn't a genius? What's so genius about Like A Virgin or Express Yourself  to use her in the same sentence as David Bowie or Michael Jackson is insulting.

If Like A virgin and Express Yourself are the only Madonna works you know, then I pity you.

She has 3 of the most critically aclaimmed albums of all time by any female artist; Like A Prayer, Ray Of Light and Music. Confessions On a Danceflor is almost on par. 

She may not have the best singing voice, but the woman has written, produced, and been on charged of her 4-decade expanding musical career in about 90% percent. Plus acting, directing movies, writing books and building an empire of her own trademark that's been legitly extremely retable for over 30 years. If that's not being a genius to you, then you're probaly very ignorant.

 

It's ok if you don't like her, but do not embarrass yourself by commenting such non-sense!

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On ‎4‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 10:38 PM, jojuun said:

I came across this very interesting article about the gendered use of the word "genius". While Madonna is the only major OG 80's pop star left (sorry, Cyndi isn't a globally dominant artist anymore and Janet & Mariah peaked in the Nineties)

stopped reading here.