Meghan Trainor: It's Not JLo's Fault

[INNA 3,722]

1 hour ago, GloZell Green said:

It's funny dears, because @Snow and @sursumd fit the TIHTY message perfectly! You guys are criticizing a woman who cries because she can't be freed from a contract she signed as a young pop star with illusions to have her material heard by millions across the world? You think she was going to deny one of the biggest music companies and go looking for another label that would pay her dust. And comparing her to Madonna's situation? Lmao, yes, continue to compare apples to oranges. Kesha doesn't even want to make this man's life hell, but others are criticizing him because he simply won't let go of a girl who does not want to work with him. She's not trying to ruin him, she simply wants to break free! How was she supposed to know that she was going to get raped when she signed the contract? How is she "privileged"? Because she's receiving support from people who believe that forcing someone to work with someone who harmed them is wrong?

Couldn't have said it better myself. Y'all act like just because Kesha is a "popstarlet" that she shouldn't be believed when coming forward about being abused and controlled for a decade.... Like do you realize HOW MANY rapists and pedophiles are employed in the music industry?? They're everywhere and they ****ing LIVE to manipulate and use new/aspiring artists. This **** is happening as we speak behind closed doors and they're getting away with it because they have the money and power to keep everything hush hush. Just because Kesha is "privileged" doesn't mean that it didn't really happen. She's a ****ing human being, just like your sisters and mothers. It's so vile that anyone would take this as a cry for attention or an attempt to ruin someone else's career. It's not about that. It's about being free from someone who has made her extremely uncomfortable and unhappy for so long. Like she's even said that at times she thought he was really going to kill her because he was so angry and abusive... Tell me again what she's asking for that's so unreasonable? The victim blaming is very, very real and it makes me sad. 

[Snow 1,582]

There is just no reasoning in here -_- So keep at your witch hunt and not trust courts. Because god forbid kesga and Gaga are indeed lying... That's way more likely that The courts and conspiracy theories. ALL I say, be very aware that maybe Luke will have enough and starts mass suing ppl for slander. Or better yet, maybe I ought to start a mass reporting your little "opinions". And most of you deserve it utterly! You are vile in your comments and hypocrites beyond measure. Gaga keeps working and being close friends with alleged and convicted sex offenders yet you turn a blind eye just because you believe a popstarlet. O.o  pathetic! There's more proof of their behaviour and you don't care...

In no way am I belittling rape, trust me I know how it feels. But I also cant accept ppl being slandered after they have been acquited with no evidence NOR proof of their supposed actions. You are just a buch of silly children following a popstarlets blindly and wont even consider that they might lie for whatever reason, like getting out of a contract... 

Now unless someone has more to say than vague hear say as evidence, then kindly shut The F up with your unfounded unproven LIES! #slander

Mature discussion and speculation is encouraged in life, but not a vile smear campaign with no proof.

 

[DiscoHeaven23 35,007]

5 hours ago, Snow said:

 ALL I say, be very aware that maybe Luke will have enough and starts mass suing ppl for slander. Or better yet, maybe I ought to start a mass reporting your little "opinions". And most of you deserve it utterly! You are vile in your comments and hypocrites beyond measure.

WTF??? hahaaha. You just went from 0 to 100 real quick. That's not how you react when someone disagrees with you. Stabilize yourself. 

 

[Snow 1,582]

16 minutes ago, DiscoHeaven23 said:

WTF??? hahaaha. You just went from 0 to 100 real quick. That's not how you react when someone disagrees with you. Stabilize yourself. 

 

Im very stable thank you very much, cant say the same about ppl who believe popstarlets over the police. And well its The truth and yeah, I get very annoyed with hate and lie spreaders. So its you and your fellows involved in this ridicilous and slanderous witch hunt who should be "out of here". Just stop it.

Luckily, society isn't run by teens in SM NOR are "crimes" solved and "justice" served there. So run along and let adults do their job in The real world.

PS. You dodged very nicely everything else in The post, like how much of a hypocrite you and others are in this witch hunt

[Snow 1,582]

I think I shall actually call for a crusade at this point against blind cult like HYPOCRACY on The matter.

You slanderous witch hunt ppl create a serious paradox whilst Screaming for boycot etc for Luke and every artist working with him based on one popstarlet's accusations that have been investigated by The police and by The court and LUKE was not guilty. Yet you with you high morals and supreme wisdom have decided to ignore this.

Then by same standards you should call for a boycot on Gaga. She has worked and is close friends with alleged rapist and convicted sex offender. For example, there are numerous allegations against Terry, as opposed to mere one. And Kelly is convicted. Therefore following your logic, Gaga should be banned as there is overwhealming amout of "evidence" against ppl she works and associates with, again, by your standards. And Don't Even try to think these are somehow different scenarios, they are exactly The same, except case against Gaga is far stronger, again going by your standards.

So who's first to burn their gaga collection?

Paradoxal, isn't it? Or mere pick and choose blind eye. 

[Whispering 18,865]

21 hours ago, Snow said:

You guys do realize that its actually slander to keep pathetically screaming rapist when a person is found NOT GUILTY? -_- 

Dr. Luke was not found guilty of not guilty on rape charges, because that case wasn't tried in a court of law. The statute of limitations had run out. Kesha's case was a civil case, not a criminal one. 

 The court felt that Kesha woukd not suffer irreparable harm by being held to the contract. It’s anyone’s guess whether the judge thinks either there’s not enough evidence to prove the charges against Gottwald or that an artist being forced to collaborate with and generate money for her alleged rapist isn’t irreparable harm. 

[Snow 1,582]

10 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Dr. Luke was not found guilty of not guilty on rape charges, because that case wasn't tried in a court of law. The statute of limitations had run out. Kesha's case was a civil case, not a criminal one. 

 The court felt that Kesha woukd not suffer irreparable harm by being held to the contract. It’s anyone’s guess whether the judge thinks either there’s not enough evidence to prove the charges against Gottwald or that an artist being forced to collaborate with and generate money for her alleged rapist isn’t irreparable harm. 

Thanks for The info. Though my point still stands.

[Whispering 18,865]

5 minutes ago, Snow said:

Thanks for The info. Though my point still stands.

Your point doesn't make sense. Dr. Luke was not tried for rape. He was not found "not guilty" for the crime of rape. 

[Snow 1,582]

9 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Your point doesn't make sense. Dr. Luke was not tried for rape. He was not found "not guilty" for the crime of rape. 

Not even The main point. Point being accusations that are not proven and hypocrites here concerning this topic. And btw slander is a civil matter and tort law. Smearing someone's name in a harmful way publicly and with not PROVEN allegations is slander. #point stands #innocentuntillprovenguilt

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, Snow said:

Not even The main point. Point being accusations that are not proven and hypocrites here concerning this topic. And btw slander is a civil matter and tort law. Smearing someone's name with harmful way publicly and with not PROVEN allegations is slander. #point stands

That was the point. You kept saying that it was proven in a court of law that he was not guilty of the crime of rape...and that's not the case. 

People discussing the case and believing that Dr. Luke is guilty on some random pop forum is not slander. You are bring hysterical and ridiculous with those claims and your silly threats. 

By the way, your constant insinuation that everyone that believes Kesha is some kind of "clueless teen" is way off base and is getting old. 

[Snow 1,582]

4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

That was the point. You kept saying that it was proven in a court of law that he was not guilty of the crime of rape...and that's not the case. 

People discussing the case and believing that Dr. Luke is guilty on some random pop forum is not slander. You are bring hysterical and ridiculous with those claims and your silly threats. 

By the way, your constant insinuation that everyone that believes Kesha is some kind of "clueless teen" is way off base and is getting old. 

Btw The slader is not limited to only this pop forum. SM counts for "public" so it can be slader. And in this "discussion" whether its that he was found not guilty or that he hasn't been proven GUILTY doesnt matter. Jeez. And its you guys crying rape without proof and boycot for ppl that are hysterical ppl here/in SM. Im just outraged by behaviour and witch hunt here without proof. 

And stop avoiding The real issue that irritated The hell out of me; The hypocrasy!

Are you The first to boycot Gaga for The very same reason and with more "evidence"?

 

[Whispering 18,865]

1 minute ago, Snow said:

Btw The slader is not limited to only this pop forum. SM counts for "public" so it can be slader. And in this "discussion" whether its that he was found not guilty or that he hasn't been proven GUILTY doesnt matter. Jeez. And its you guys crying rape without proof and boycot for ppl that are hysterical ppl here/in SM. Im just outraged by behaviour and witch hunt here without proof. 

And stop avoiding The real issue that irritated The hell out of me; The hypocrasy!

Are you The first to boycot Gaga for The very same reason and with more "evidence"?

 

I'm directly referring to the point that you kept expressing about Dr. Luke being found "not guilty" for rape. That was not an accurate claim by you. Then, I am addressing the fact that you keep yelling "slander", even to the point of your hysterical threat to turn people in on this site that believe Kesha. 

"Or better yet, maybe I ought to start a mass reporting your little "opinions". "

I mean, that is just ridiculous. You have to know how silly that statement is. 

Some people believe Kesha, both here and elsewhere. They have every right to do do. It isn't slander. If that opinion and choice makes you that angry and upset, to where you are threatening people and telling them to **** off, maybe you are the one with the problem. 

 

[StrawberryBlond 14,900]

I can't believe there are actually people saying that they trust the courts and the police. Please give me whatever you're smoking because myself and everyone I know has little to no faith in the justice system wherever they are in the world. It is a proven fact the courts and police lie and cover things up. Police cover-ups have been exposed numerous times. And you'd be shocked at how rape allegations are dealt with. One of the most shocking incidents I ever read about was the Rotherham sex scandal (between 1997 and 2013, many underage girls were groomed by Muslim gangs to join a prostitution ring in this area and the police limited their investigation into it because they admitted that they didn't want to be seen as racist by questioning Muslims). I read a victim's story and this is what she said: "When my parents found out what had happened to me, they contacted the police and they brushed them off. They said that I was a prostitute, it was my choice and because I was only a couple of months away from turning 16, they weren't going to do anything." It is shocking and appalling that grooming and rape is still being treated this way in this day and age. Wake up, folks, this is the reality. I don't blindly believe what everyone says, but you have to realise that there are systems in place that silence victims, even if they're telling the truth, and we must fight against them.

At the end of the day, it's like Iggy Azalea said - if she simply wanted to get out of her contract, there's a million other reasons she could have claimed instead, all of which have a much higher, quicker and easier chance of getting the result she wanted. But no, she's claiming rape, something that can't always be proven and rarely works out in the victim's favour. And she's putting her career on the line for this very risky allegation that she has a high chance of losing. If she's that determined, she must be telling the truth. What we do know as 100% truth is that Luke has shackled her to a contract that allows him complete control over her and her career decisions and he profits off anything she makes, even if it didn't involve him. That is abusive in and of itself, before we even get to rape. Numerous people have come out claiming that he's a jerk. On that count, he's guilty as sin, anyway.

[Snow 1,582]

3 minutes ago, Whispering said:

I'm directly referring to the point that you kept expressing about Dr. Luke being found "not guilty" for rape. That was not an accurate claim by you. Then, I am addressing the fact that you keep yelling "slander", even to the point of your hysterical threat to turn people in on this site that believe Kesha. 

"Or better yet, maybe I ought to start a mass reporting your little "opinions". "

I mean, that is just ridiculous. You have to know how silly that statement is. 

Some people believe Kesha, both here and elsewhere. They have every right to do do. It isn't slander. If that opinion and choice makes you that angry and upset, to where you are threatening people and telling them to **** off, maybe you are the one with the problem. 

 

Omg, you just cant comprehend The points and keep circling around irrelevant matters. 

A) any harmful lie about a person in public is slander. That includes unaproven accusations of unproven crime. Whilst speculating, always use allegedly or you may be sladerous and Sued. 

B) I suggest reporting ppl to make a point of how and what they scream publicly. Think before type.

C) you are still avoiding The real issue of HYPOCRACY. Shall we start a boycot?

D) just so everyone knows. IF there indeed would be proof that Luke is a rapist, trust me, I will be The first to cut his balls and crucify his ass. But innocent untill proven guilty & due process must be upheld.

[yASSsss 35,510]

On 4/12/2016 at 6:47 PM, Glory said:

Why J-Lo?! That backlash should have been kept for Katy's lead ... 

 I was thinking the same thing